Originally Posted by
lillyknitting 
That is so patronizing; don't you think then that he's tried patience, persistence & sometimes a little help from others???
I don't know Robert, so I don't know all the things he has tried, and I certainly didn't intend to be patronizing. Rather, I was trying to be encouraging. He explicitly wrote in his post title that it’s a “mystery” to him how people achieve sobriety. Sometimes we need to be reminded of the obvious, so I attempted to explain it’s not really a mystery, but rather the desire to never give up, and seeking help when needed. I don’t have the secret for sobriety, I can only share what’s worked for me so far, and patience, persistence and seeking help have been useful.
Since you haven’t offered Robert any advice in this thread Lilly, maybe you could do so instead of chiding me for at least attempting to offer him help?