Originally Posted by
ElleDee 
IF you are a believer in AA... which not everyone here is.
true, not everyone here is. however, the OP posted about f2f meetings and the sober people there. common sense told me that is AA. I am in the fellowship of AA, so I shared my experience and quotes from the BB.
but I really don't think a person has to be a believer in AA to at least look at the quotes and ask themselves if any of it is true for them.
did or does holding onto old ideas about your drinking work??
are you willing to go to any lengths to get sober?
did or does an easier softer way to get and stay sober work ?
did or do half measures to get and stay sober work?
doesn't necessarily mean a person has to use the program of AA, but they are good questions to answer.