Hmm, guess I have made (another) crazy mess of this thread, so I might as well continue on it . . . .
Trying to make some sense of what the kids and I have been through this last year.
This is about all the Lying that got the "Lack of Compassion" started -- Pondering this over on bpdfamily.com, but any here that may have some insight, I would more than welcome your thoughts
Btw Hammer (here, me) is the same as Somewhere (there, as in Somewhere Over the Rainbow).
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Is "Paint You Black" Lying a Form of Abuse?
Hammer/Somewhere:
okay.
This is a really ******** question.
Searched a few times just so I could avoid asking it.
The "paint you black" lying.
Is that a form of abuse?
Thanks.
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MR: I think that's a very reasonable and very valid question, not ******** at all. Often wondered the same thing myself.
I guess if it's used as a form of manipulation it could be considered as emotional abuse.
If it affects you professionally or your reputation then it can be considered as slander.
A really good question to ask
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Hammer/Somewhere:
not too concerned regarding Slander, etc.
After a while most folks seem to figure out it is nutty.
I guess my question is more like intentional culpability.
I understand that it is the product of a crazed mind. I get that.
But is the intent to harm others / *us* or are they just trying to "make up facts" (lying in less kind terms) to match what they may be feeling?
I guess in my pondering -- if it is just crazy stuff from a crazy mind -- it is sort of like a Noble Savage thing.
HOWEVER, if it is done with the intent of harm -- it is abusive?
Dunno.
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MT: They paint you black, but the lying about you part to friends, family, co-workers, therapists etc... Is called a smear campaign, villification campaign or distortion campaign and can be forms of baiting, projection, and proxy recruitment.
Is that what you mean by painted black lying?
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Hammer/Somewhere: Yes. (and thank you for refining and much improving my question)
Is THAT Abuse?