Magic- I am sure my posts have been distressing to you because I have been disillusioned by the people in the 12 step program. I think both sides to a situation need to be known. But you have always been a strong voice for alanon and have blessed us with your strong stand for it. I feel we should all post our experiences but it will be a shame to lose one who is so positive in life. The best to you in your recovery. dax