Originally Posted by
AnvilheadII 
I mean, it's just liquid in a glass!!! How can it ruin everything???
because to the alcoholic mind, that "liquid" IS everything. it's not that he can't quit for YOU....he can't quit for himself. it IS that powerful. it's addiction, a physical compulsion and a mental obsession.
that's why ultimatums rarely work: me or the booze (or the pills, or the coke, or the gambling, or the porn....or the hoarding, or the food). to the ADDICT mind you might as well say: me or breathing.
Anvil head, that is a really powerful post. I can't wrap my thoughts around this. I'm still thinking, 'he can stop if he wants to, why doesn't he want it enough? Why is he doing this??'
I'm reading your post again, and I am scared for him.
Do they even know how much they are hurting us??