my former bil, my aexh's brother, just quit. He had a terrible hangover and decided he wasn't going to drink anymore. As far as I know he hasn't. I don't know if he's an alcoholic, but the great majority of the men in that family are. My daughter says her dad admires that- I'm glad, I hope it plants a seed of potential in him. Something a high school friend said to me about alanon inspired me to check it out over a decade later... the influence of an example can last a long time.