Thanks guys. I have learned a lot since i got on here. And thanks for all the pm's. I have been told in the pm's from some pretty knowledgeable people that from what they have read that im not an addict but i am dependent. My post reads 1st time addict. Im really dont know crap but im trying and this forum has been golden. I dont think i have felt a buzz from these pills in over a year. Sure in the beginning i did but thats bc i had no tolerance. Now i take them for one reason and one reason only. Not to get sick. That surprise w/d that i went thru even though it was just one day has left its mark. I have re read my posts and its like i got all these questions looking for this magic way to make w/d easy. Well its just not going to be. Im just gonna have my thomas recipe next to me with some lopermide and knuckle down. I am going to try and taper first. So will see.