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Old 01-04-2013, 07:24 PM
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ThankGodForAA
Recovered Alcoholic And Heroin
 
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Originally Posted by Xune View Post
YOU MAY BE AN ALCOHOLIC OF THE HOPEFUL VARIETY!

...what does that even mean?

If alcohol is a destructive force in your life, it's a problem. Dwelling one what kind of a drunk you are is pointless to the level of the absurd.

However a drunk stops drinking, if the end result is they're sober and have their life back...it's all good in my view.

"Good to meet you sir, I am a rather hopeful alcoholic."

' Hopeful you say?'

" Oh yes, quite hopeful indeed!"
The first 4 chapters in the book Alcohol Anonymous are called the Conclusion chapters, during these chapters you come to the conclusion yourself , no one can tell you, that you are an alcoholic of the hopeless variety. Now hopeless means that you have no hope of one day regaining control of your drink or drug use on your own will power.
Alcoholics of the hopeless variety have no control of when and where they drink and once they start they cannot stop, STEP 1 is accepting this.
Another part of step 1 is that your life is unmanageable.
That could mean even with out the substances, you can be a miserable POS. or as others call it, DRY DRUNK.

They are restless,
irritable and discontented, unless they can again experience
the sense of ease and comfort which comes at once by
taking a few drinks—drinks which they see others taking
with impunity. After they have succumbed to the desire
again, as so many do, and the phenomenon of craving
develops, they pass through the well-known stages of a
spree, emerging remorseful, with a firm resolution not to
drink again. This is repeated over and over, and unless this
person can experience an entire psychic change there is
very little hope of his recovery.

Well this kind of reminded me of someone!

Next he can be assured that you do not intend to
lecture, moralize, or condemn; that if this was done
formerly, it was because of misunderstanding. If possible
express a lack of hard feeling toward him. At
this point, it might be well to explain alcoholism, the
illness. Say that you believe he is a gravely ill person,
with this qualification—being perhaps fatally ill,
does he want to get well? You ask, because many
alcoholics, being warped and drugged, do not want to
quit. But does he? Will he take every necessary step,
submit to anything to get well, to stop drinking forever?
If he says yes, does he really mean it, or down inside
does he think he is fooling you, and that after rest and
treatment he will be able to get away with a few drinks
now and then? We believe a man should be thoroughly
probed on these points. Be satisfied he is not
deceiving himself or you.
Whether you mention this book is a matter for your
discretion. If he temporizes and still thinks he can
ever drink again, even beer, he might as well be discharged
after the next bender which, if an alcoholic,
he is almost certain to have. He should understand
that emphatically. Either you are dealing with a man
who can and will get well or you are not. If not, why
waste time with him? This may seem severe, but it is
usually the best course.
THANK GOD I AM OF THIS TYPE!

I NEVER HAD IT SO GOOD BROTHER!

Love you man!

Best wishes!
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