Originally Posted by
freshstart57 
My point is that denying something you cannot perceive ends up becoming an argument for your limitations.
Painter has been in AA for years and has seen plenty of others fail via the use of these methods alone. He is not speaking from a vacuum.
As for "denying something you cannot perceive becoming an argument for your limitations" ….. with that statement we come full circle to the question asked initially in this thread.
It seems to me that you are becomming more open minded as we speak.