Originally Posted by
Gottalife 
Your could say that TU's post was a good secular summary of the first three steps of AA.
I've had more exposure to AA, and none with AVRTso I can't really say I like one better than the other, i just like telling myself, "drinking is not an option" didn't mean to promote AVRT. Whatever works for ya, that's all that matters. i hope i didn't start a war, sincerily