I dont believe that manipulation has anything to do with it. He is the one that came to this realization. I never pushed him or got in his face about it. I knew it would always be something that he would have to see for himself. I just dont know if self-destruction like this is something that happens. I never gave him him am ultimatum. Hell, I didnt want to believe he was going down that path myself. But waking up one day and doing this to his own family worries me.