Hi newme! In the beginning I had a sort of 'warm up' period, where I'd keep failing at quitting. Sometimes I think we need to prove to ourselves that we truly have no control - that moderation isn't possible for us. Once I got that, I stopped all attempts at social drinking - I knew for me that would never be possible.
I'm concerned about the health issues you mention. I hope you can get some medical help & check out what's causing those pains. Very glad you are here with us.
