Frothy I have no doubt we would have quite an interesting conversation but somehow I think the banter would get too heated for this board. I do not believe in "higher powers", gods, unicorns or the tooth fairy. Your belief in a "power of a non-human nature" to solve your problems with drugs and alcohol seems..well...imbecilic. I also find it irresponsible to try to convince sick people that your belief in a "power of non-human nature" will help them too, but hey..that's just me. <shrug>