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Shame and Blame

Something stirred in me when I read another recent thread and I felt I needed to share this here. What I read on this site helped me so much and I hope it helps others who have also felt the shame and the blame. I've copied and pasted it here. (I hope that's okay?).

From Getting Them Sober- Recovery Communications

when told, "You're not a victim--you volunteered for it
by toby » Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:24 am

There's subtle abuse perpetrated on the person involved with the alcoholic, when we are told that "no one told us to rescue him"
---IT IS THE SAME SUBTLE ABUSE AS WHEN WE ARE TOLD THAT "WE WERE NOT VICTIMS OF THE ALCOHOLIC'S BEHAVIOR" ... THAT WE "VOLUNTEERED FOR IT"
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a.) when I was new in family recovery (about 42+ years ago -- older than some of you are now!) .... a woman passed me a note at a meeting..... I had just shared with the group about the abuse I was a victim of...... her note said to me, "whenever I am troubled, the trouble lies within."

I looked at her like she was crazy.

I just figured she had no idea what I was talking about.

And I was feisty enough that I knew that NO ONE was going to shut me up----or shame me into leaving the rooms of recovery....shame me by implying that I was to blame for being abused (telling me that I 'allowed it').

b.) What was really going on? Was that woman wrong? Was I wrong?
Neither was "wrong" in a sense. But she was "wrong-er" than I was.

WHY WAS SHE WRONG-ER THAN I WAS?

Yes, technically speaking, whenever I am troubled, I must look within. And these days, of course I do. It is second nature to do so.

BUT IN THOSE EARLY DAYS OF FAMILY RECOVERY, whenever I 'looked within', all I saw was that I was in a situation that I could not emotionally leave... all I had was an alcoholic in my life who actually told me that he enjoyed hurting me...........and I could not leave.

What VERY PRACTICAL HELP DID help me?

What helped me were the people who ONLY said, "I understand." "I've
been there." "You'll find your way to deal with it". "we're here for you" "OF COURSE you love him." "When and if you want to leave, you will." "You're not trapped...you only think you are, but you are not trapped..." "you are a child of God and He will show you what you need to do."

All these statements said to me, "it's ok where you are."

NONE of these statements told me ---OR IMPLIED TO ME--- that SOMEHOW "I am to blame for the abuse I 'subject myself' to".

There is AN IMPLICATION when we tell the family member that "whenever you are troubled, the trouble lies within".

The woman living with an abuser hears this and it SOUNDS LIKE the abuser talking to her once again.

And she is RIGHT. It IS abusive to say this to her....

BECAUSE WHEN WE SAY THINGS TO PEOPLE, WE ALWAYS SAY THEM
IN-CONTEXT.

When I tell a newcomer to family recovery that "your trouble originates from within", I shame her... she will mumble to me, "you're right"...she will slink away...she will not return for help... Oh, some will stay in recovery when this is said to them---but MOST will just not return.

I train counselors around the country.
Over and over, they ask me, "how can I keep families coming back for help? They leave after a session or two."
I ask them, "what do you say to them in the first session?"
The ones who ask me why the families leave treatment, always tell me that they say to the counseling client who lives with an alcoholic, "Why do you stay?" or "he has not victimized you... you do this to yourself".

The counselors ask me, then, "then what do YOU say?"
What I say to my clients is what is in my books....... I say that I TOTALLY understand...... and that they ARE being treated horribly...and that THEY WILL find a way to deal with it...and that they are NOT CRAZY when they tell me how much they are being abused and how much he lies about it and how no one understands or believes them.

I tell them that no one has the right to shame them -- even unknowingly or subtly-- for staying with him.

That OF COURSE she loves him.

IT IS ONLY WHEN I PUT NO PRESSURE ON HER AT ALL---NOT EVEN ANY IMPLIED PRESSURE ON HER---THAT TELLS HER SHE MUST MAKE CHANGES THAT SHE IS NOT AT ALL ABLE OR WANTING TO MAKE... it is this TOTAL ACCEPTANCE of where she is at RIGHT NOW...that helps her to move forward into whatever place she will feel more peace.

AND THE BIGGEST THING I WATCH OUT FOR IS SHAMING HER.

ANY TIME I TELL A NEWCOMER THAT THE ONUS OF HER FEELING BAD IS ON HER----INSTEAD OF ON THE ABUSER WHO ABUSES HER----I AM SHAMING HER.
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Victor Frankl, who was internationally famous after World War II, wrote about the Jewish people in concentration camps---and wrote about the newspapers that continually asked, "Why didn't they just emigrate out of Germany?" and "Why didn't they fight back?"...and ended up with the IMPLICATION that "no wonder it happened to them...... they could have done something about it and they did not."
Frankl coined the phrase, back then, "blaming the victim".

Yes, there are victims.

In fact, I think there is an analogy between how Germany acclimated Jews to acceptance of what happened----------- and what happens to families of alcoholics.

How so? Well, it is a slow process...and it is a "back and forth" process.
The Germans put out new codes, new laws, one at a time, that herded Jewish people into ghettoes, stopped them from going to school/earning a living/etc etc.

BUT HOW THEY DID IT WAS SUBLIME----- they would put out a new code of expected behavior... the Jewish people would get angry... then, the German government would say that "it's all ok...it'll all blow over, eventually... it's for your own good.... look, it's not so bad... we do care about you... try looking at this way...etc etc etc"... and it made it seem like, "livable"... it calmed scared nerves down.

It made people think it would all be ok, someday...and that living there was still not so bad.
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Living with an alcoholic is soooo similar... the disease is progressive....... we start out with someone who is in earlier stages...he is nice a lot... he is nice for five days out of seven...

The awful behavior creeps forward irregularly and usually slowly... we see so much good in him... he is sweet...he makes tons of promises...he tells us how very special we are... he is so wonderful, when he is nice, that he is more wonderful than anyone else would ever be, we think.

Slowly, but surely, then, it turns sour...... but IT IS PUNCTUATED by niceness---once again...over and over, the awfulness and then the beautiful sweetness... awfulness, then repentance and tears... promises for a good future.....then, bam, again......and nice again......and bam, again.......

Yes, we ARE victims of this terrible process...of this terrible disease...it is, as the A.A. Big Book says, "CUNNING, BAFFLING, AND POWERFUL"... How could ANYONE really know what is going on??!!.

For goodness sake, the family doesn't know..the alcoholic doesn't know...even the trained therapists STILL have a hard time understanding this 'cunning, baffling, and powerful' disease.

And once you are in recovery, you DON'T just "wake up" and "understand" and "not act like a victim anymore"... the CUNNING-NESS of this disease...the BAFFLING-NESS of this disease continues........

**** And just because you INTELLECTUALLY KNOW BETTER, does NOT mean you don't love him anymore, does not mean you are not any more caught up in the process of victimization........

But ---- It DOES NOT HELP YOU ---IN FACT, IT HURTS YOU----IF I TELL YOU THAT NO ONE CAN VICTIMIZE YOU BUT YOURSELF.

Only if I tell you that I know you are being victimized ---FROM MY COMPASSION PLACE------ you will know that my heart really goes out to you......... and that I am WITH you...and that I understand you..... and THAT will help you to recover MUCH FASTER than if I tell you "you are not a victim....you are doing this to yourself."toby
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