Originally Posted by Still Waters

I maintain that a healthy marriage/relationship cannot be had with a "drunken jerk" period.

Many of our commenter's here didn't marry drunken jerks, their spouses became that years into the marriage.

I suppose we all need to become mind readers, to know instantly when what is said is a lie, to know when "this is the last one, I promise" is the truth. We all need to be born with the knowledge we've all slowly learned here in the "codependency" room - that you cannot reason with a drunken jerk, you cannot have a normal conversation with a drunken jerk, and you cannot ever trust a drunken jerk to do what they said they would do. That "until death do us part" is a load of dookey and we shouldn't take it seriously ever, since it just makes us look like pathetic codies.

I wish I had been a mind reader.