Originally Posted by littlefish

With all due respect summerpeach, I can't agree with that. Wouldn't you be annoyed to hear a man say that "all women lie?"

I don't think it is a man or a woman thing in particular to lie or "gaslight", and not every alcoholic is a liar and a gaslighter.

And, I am sure plenty of normies are capable of gaslighting behavior as well.

Actually when I first read the description of gaslighting, I didn't think about an alcoholic right away. I thought about a very cruel man I knew at a workplace. He was not an alcoholic. He worked with a boy who was a little handicapped. He would mess up the boys work while his back was turned, steal things and blame it on the kid and lied to the supervisor time and time again. I saw him doing it.

It's a very bad human trait and I guess when you combine it with alcoholism, it is multiplied by 10....