Originally Posted by
loveon2legs 
I have a hard time watching A&E, it breaks my heart..I almost feel like they get ambushed...and go to recovery most of the time for their family and friends..not for themselves...
That's a very important and relevant observation.
Many times that's what it takes, huh? I didn't go to treatment because I wanted to... maybe to save my job.... but I did not come to one day and said, "I want to go to treatment".
Perhaps the opportunity to get an active alcoholic addict sober for a little will help them get past the denial and offer them the chance that willingness will develop for real...
But it is probably a big reason why the long term recovery rates after treatment are so dismal... like, what 30%??
Mark