Just curious Dub, it says that you joined Dec 08 and I'm assuming that you have pondered the thought of sobriety since that time. I understand that people relapse and they come on here looking for suggestions and a plan to quit the insanity. Please dont take this in a negative way but how come you come on here with no intentions of quitting drinking? For me, every time I promised myself that I wouldnt drink and ended up relapsing, the shame, embarrassment, disappointment and guilt was that much worse. I have read a few of your posts and it seems like you sorta want to quit but you arent taking any actions to do it. So what is holding you back?