I haven't read the whole thread (nor do I wish to -- what I've seen seems to be a debate-bordering-on-argument), Dee, but I wanted to comment on a couple of things in your last post.
Originally Posted by
Dee74 
Personally, I think anybody who focuses purely on their alcoholism in recovery is missing out on a lot.
Something else you'd find in a healthy 12 step fellowship is that those who have the most solid recovery find out very quickly that alcohol and/or (if you believe in and/or) drug consumption is but the very tip of the iceberg -- merely a symptom. If all it would do for me was keep me dry, I'd been back out on the streets a long time ago.
And anybody who thinks they have all the answers is, in my opinion, pretty much missing the point
"We know only a little" -- we are 100% in agreement there!
Peace & Love,
Sugah