Thanks Freeport.....that's exactly what i'm experiencing, numbs the stresses of the day....my 5 year old daughter said this weekend (of course fathers day of all days) "only daddy's can have alcohol"......yep.....epiphany.......i don't want my girls to go down this slippery slope.....got to get it out of our family experience....gonna try by myself first....hopefully SR can help me in this.......