BTW, just going to throw this out to the universe, FWIW, in case anyone wanders along this way...the ONE thing -Katie NEVER needs is so-called "tough love." In fact, I think anyone
of an adult age does not need that. I think ANOTHER recovery method that is
not secular in nature DOES advocate this. But,
there is a reason people like me/us spend time in a SECULAR forum. Hopefully, it is not to have folks come in and talk about tough love and the like. Thank you very much