Sorry NandM, I know it's not all about me but...
are you talking about me?
Are you saying that secular and AA are mutually exclusive? And that AAers should simply stay away from this forum?
I got sober in AA. That experience is real. I consider myself a secular person. That experience is real too. I consider that AA was the single biggest catalyst for change in my life, but I don't think that all catalysts for change are AA.
I don't think - contrary to the accepted position here - that secular means anti-religion. I think and have always thought that it means pro-human. Pro-life, literally rather than politically. Pro-joy. Pro-peace.
I'm tired of being anti-.