Thanks Wantsout....I will keep all that in my back pocket. If I was the kind of person that would lie, I could point to all the 6 or 7 holes in the wall of the garage and say he went nuts! Can't do that though. But I should have done it when they happened. Problem was, usually it happened when he was out there with his brother and they got drunk and little guy and I were in bed sleeping and did not see them til morning after!