I was talking to a lady recently. She told me she went out with a guy for a whole year, never realising he was an alcoholic. Seriously though, I wouldn't worry about that saying - I mean lets face it, for most of us alcoholics you definitely would not trust us if we did drink. As for the perfectionist thing, that is a good point. We become addicted to getting the job done perfectly. I think I can become addicted to almost anything. One day scientists will develop a pill and we will be able to wave goodbye to the addiction folly. I mean, if they can do it for depression, why not addiction?