Hi there sickofit: Sorry, I hear your pain. That's just how I felt tonight "sick of it" I have a AD and she went off the meth program a few months ago and now is using again. Tonight I am happy I can come to SR. It is a good support 24/7. I haven't started into a 12 Step Program but others here highly recommend it. Haven't tried the "chats" here either but there is a great deal of information that will be helpful for you. GOOD LUCK TO YOU Sending ((((HUGS))))