I stopped posting on "lost" threads because i felt he wasn't ready to quit. you just want an excuse to continue your drinking. I listened to the previous posts and felt bad that i gave up on you, the way others gave up on me. quit being so pigheaded and give this a chance. what have you got to lose? a chance at a new life. I went to churc for the first time today, looked up a church on the net, emailed unsuccessfuly 3 times before i got through, because i need a ride to and from. a neighbor 3 doors down took me, heard a great sermon which i felt was directed to me, met a great bunch of accepting people who welcomed me with open arms. left with a "high" and am going back.