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Drummer5000 04-29-2015 11:11 AM

Trying to quit Drinking is hard
 
Reasons I want to quit.

My marriage hurts when I drink.

I am sure it is hurting my health.

I am convicted by the Holy Spirit to quit, and cannot stand before God when I drink.

I am studying to be a pastor at a seminary.


So... How do I start. Things I've tried

I told my wife I had snuck alcohol and she got pretty mad. I have told her before that I was trying to quit and at this point she is losing hope in me. She is pretty sick of dealing with it at all.

I have a good friend who can keep me accountable and has been, but it doesn't really help a ton.

I've never done AA or anything like it but may consider it, although I am incredibly busy with studies. Help me!

Coldfusion 04-29-2015 11:18 AM

Welcome to SoberRecovery, Drummer!

You'll find this site to be a great source opf inspiration and information. Read around and post often!

Many communities have Christian "Celebrate Recovery" meetings, and you may find this program more attractive than AA.

Drummer5000 04-29-2015 11:48 AM

Thank you so much! I felt weird about it but called and left a message to a group nearby.

Berrybean 04-29-2015 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by Drummer5000 (Post 5344707)

I've never done AA or anything like it but may consider it, although I am incredibly busy with studies. Help me!


I found that staying sober gave me plenty of extra productive time, not to mention being in a frame of mind where I can utilise that time more productively. I go to AA a few times a week - it takes about 5 hours out of my week. That's far less time than I used to give to alcohol.

Good luck whatever you decide, but I've found AA to be a great option, especially if you are comfortable with a spiritual programme, which it sounds like you would be.

Soberwolf 04-29-2015 12:11 PM

Welcome Drummer5000

least 04-29-2015 12:23 PM

Welcome to the family! :) The most important thing for me in order to stay sober was to want to be sober more than I wanted to drink. :)

Drummer5000 04-29-2015 12:25 PM

How would I found out about A A programs near me?

ScottFromWI 04-29-2015 12:26 PM

Welcome Drummer. There are a lot of folks here who understand and have been exactly where you are. There is also a lot of support here too. Glad you have reached out locally, having in-person support can be very helpful too.

ScottFromWI 04-29-2015 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by Drummer5000 (Post 5344799)
How would I found out about A A programs near me?

Just look in your phone book or google AA along with your zip code or the name of the city you live in.

Nonsensical 04-29-2015 12:27 PM

Welcome to SR!

NOT drinking is actually easier than drinking, especially when I had to hide my drinking. I had to get money she wouldn't know I was going to spend on liquor, stop at the store, sneak it into the house, sneak it into my mouth, try to act sober, argue when she realized I was drinking again, deal with the hangover, etc. Not drinking involves no effort whatsoever.

BEING HAPPY about not drinking when I have that dirty bastid whispering in my head all day about how nice a couple of drinks would be - well that can be difficult.

It gets easier, but only if you stick with it.

You can do this. :ring

Drummer5000 04-29-2015 12:30 PM

I feel silly, the interwebs told me all I need to know about AA lol

Berrybean 04-29-2015 12:47 PM

Don't feel silly - it's all a learning curve eh. Did you find the meeting search facility? Hope you find some good ones near you. They can vary a lot, so it's worth trying a few different ones to see where you feel most comfortable. There's a thread on here somewhere that says about what to expect at an AA meeting I think.

Drummer5000 04-29-2015 12:47 PM

Can just show up to closed meetings??

least 04-29-2015 12:49 PM

Closed meetings are for alcoholics only. If you identify as an alcoholic, you are more than welcome at a closed meeting. :)

Berrybean 04-29-2015 01:01 PM

Yes - what Least said.

There is no necessity to contact anyone before you go. Some people do so, but people are friendly and will show you to the kettle / tea / coffee and chat to any newcomers. (We've all been new ourselves and remember what it's like). Main things I wasn't prepared for...

- Some meetings pass round readings for everyone to take a turn reading aloud from - if you're not comfortable reading it out you can just say 'pass' and pass the sheet to the next person - nobody will mind in the least

- There is usually a collection at some point in the meeting to cover running costs so it's worth making sure you have some change in your pocket

- Most meetings end in everyone hold in hands in a circle and saying a prayer together (Serenity Prayer where I'm from, but I believe it's not always that).

- Some people (me being one of them) can find their first meetings a little overwhelming and can get a little teary-eyed. Might be worth having a tissue in your pocket if you could be that way inclined :)

MIRecovery 04-29-2015 01:08 PM

Just go to Alcoholics Anonymous and the meetings near you. You can look it up by zip or city. Just click
On Alcoholics Anonymous and the link is embedded

Drummer5000 04-29-2015 01:10 PM

Ok so I found a meeting I think, and am planning on going, but it is at 10:00 pm. Although this is late, it meets every day.

Can you help me know what to expect? I'm sure I could find something online somewhere. I am a Christian and it is really important to me that the meeting is Christian as well. As a Christian will I feel out of place at all? Should I be ready to answer any weird questions?

Drummer5000 04-29-2015 01:12 PM

I'm just now noting that you already answered my question Beccybean. Thanks! Any other sage advice? I am a little worried about stopping on the way back and sneaking something. My mind is telling me it would be easy... ugh

Berrybean 04-29-2015 01:20 PM

As a christian it may well be easier to accept the spiritual speak that many agnostics find uncomfortable at first. As far as questions - Other thank being asked to introduce yourself (Would any newcomers introduce themselves by their first names so we may become better acquainted' - to which you just say 'I'm X, and I'm an alcoholic, This is my first meeting' or similar), no, there will be no questions at all other than general chit-chat questions from others during breaks or waiting for the meeting to start in a friendly way.

When people share you will have a chance to say more if you wish, but there is no expectation or pressure to do so. Most people just tend to listen in their first meeting. I shared, but I didn't know I didn't have to. Also, there was only about 6 people at my first meeting. Some meetings are much bigger than that.

Most of the AA books, including The Big Book, and Twelve Steps and Twelve Traditions can be downloaded free of charge from the AA website if you wanted to read about it all, but there's no need at first.

Coldfusion 04-29-2015 01:20 PM

AA is not a strictly Christian program, but you should feel that it is compatible with your religion.

"Alcoholics Anonymous is a fellowship of men and women who share their experience, strength, and hope with each other, that they may solve their common problem and help others to recover from alcoholism. The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop drinking. There are no dues or fees for AA membership. We are self supporting through our own contributions. AA is not allied with any sect, denomination, politics, organization, or institution; does not wish to engage in any controversy; neither endorses nor opposes any causes. Our primary purpose is to stay sober and help other alcoholics achieve sobriety."

Drummer5000 04-29-2015 01:28 PM

I just found the arcade!

Coldfusion 04-29-2015 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by Drummer5000 (Post 5344865)
I just found the arcade!

You should also know about the "24-Hour Recovery Connections" thread, and join the "Class of April, 2015" thread. THEN you can go play in the Arcade!

http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...ml#post5340199

http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...ml#post5334675

Drummer5000 04-29-2015 01:35 PM

Thank you everyone btw, for all the advice, information, and ready support. I appreciate it and really hope to overcome this crap.

Coldfusion 04-29-2015 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by Drummer5000 (Post 5344882)
Ok im posting here, confused how to keep up with everything though.

Just know that ANY time spent here at SoberRecovery is better than time spent drinking!

MIRecovery 04-29-2015 02:01 PM

In the meetings I attend talk about specific religions is discouraged. Talk about your higher power/God is encouraged. Many in AA have had very negative experiences with organized religion but are the most spiritual people I know.

AA is the most diverse group of people you will ever meet but together we stay sober

MIRecovery 04-29-2015 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by Drummer5000 (Post 5344874)
Thank you everyone btw, for all the advice, information, and ready support. I appreciate it and really hope to overcome this crap.

We really never overcome alcoholism we just learn how to coexist with it and not drink

Lance40 04-29-2015 02:04 PM

Hi Drummer - welcome here. I'm glad you posted. I think you may be a good candidate for the AA 12 step program.

My Christian faith is very important to me, and what I can tell you is the 12 steps of the AA program can be well aligned with traditional Christian theology. In the context of alcoholism as the result of a spiritual malady, they consist of a progression through an acknowledgement of our sinful state and condition, a recognition of our need for God, and a full surrender to Him. The steps then move into repentance through a rigorous self-examination which leads to a full confession to God and a fellow human and then into a process of restitution for past hurts we have caused. The final steps are about entering a process of ongoing sanctification and spreading the good news to others who are in need.

Rob Bell writes in his book What We Talk About When We Talk About God that if someone wants a real experience of God they should attend an AA meeting. I was initially skeptical of AA but he's right on the money. In a good AA meeting all the window dressing and false pretenses get stripped away and you can experience a whole other way of being human. Sometimes the sense is almost palpable.

I wish you all the best. You can have lasting victory over this.

Fly N Buy 04-29-2015 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by Drummer5000 (Post 5344707)
Reasons I want to quit.

My marriage hurts when I drink.

I am sure it is hurting my health.

I am convicted by the Holy Spirit to quit, and cannot stand before God when I drink.

I am studying to be a pastor at a seminary.


So... How do I start. Things I've tried

I told my wife I had snuck alcohol and she got pretty mad. I have told her before that I was trying to quit and at this point she is losing hope in me. She is pretty sick of dealing with it at all.

I have a good friend who can keep me accountable and has been, but it doesn't really help a ton.

I've never done AA or anything like it but may consider it, although I am incredibly busy with studies. Help me!

Welcome, glad you're here!I

I have a friend in AA who is a pastor. He had completed seminary and did a couple tours in Afghanistan as well. All that was before he found AA - Without this guy I doubt I would be sober today. He got me through my first few months with daily visits / coffee and talk.

My friend is approaching two years sobriety - I am at almost a year.
We have supported each other - sobriety allowed me to finish a degree started many, many years ago. My friend was so inspired he started PHD work.

Today I read in Oswald Chambers about gracious uncertainty. Without knowing what will happen, we have faith in His grace.......
My Utmost for His Highest by Oswald Chambers

Sobriety changes everything - you can help so many with your pastoral completion. AA will be a blessing for you and those that God puts in your path, I am sure. So many need your guidance.

Peace be with us all on our journey's. Hope you find your way.
God could and would if He were sought.........

9975texan 04-29-2015 02:35 PM

Happy to give you some insight on Celebrate Recovery. I am a Christian and I tried AA. It wasn't for me. After 5 years of going in and out of Celebrate Recovery at my church, I was welcomed back with open arms when I hit rock bottom in February.
Celebrate Recovery bases their program on the AA 12 steps but with a Christian perspective. I am now in a 12 step study and it's been life changing.
Our meeting formats start with worship time, large group meeting - either is a 12-step lesson or testimony and then we break out into small groups, gender specific according to issue. (i.e. addiction, life issues). Afterwards, there is usually a coffee social time.
By the grace of God, I am 68 days sober. I'll be praying for you! One day at a time....


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