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Tabbj 12-03-2013 12:55 AM

Society is so crul
 
I have had my share of being told I do not meet up to society standards !!

1. Not rich enough
2. Not educated enough
3. Job not good enough
4. Your body doesn't look like a model
5. Your Kids are not good enough for theirs

I could go on and on with this, people need to just accept this world is not perfect and never will be. If the world is so perfect it would not revolve at all.

If you can not take me how I am and who I am ...
" I DO NOT NEED YOU IN MY LIFE "
Is what I think of society ... :yup:

PurpleKnight 12-03-2013 01:20 AM

I agree, society can be ridicuous at times!! :headbange

KateL 12-03-2013 03:26 AM

Rise above society, it is full of fools. There are some nice people scattered around though and plenty on this forum ;)

Skye2 12-03-2013 03:33 AM

When these people pay for your food, clothing etc, listen to them. Until then - tell them to (bleep) off ;)

Nonsensical 12-03-2013 05:18 AM

No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
- Eleanor Roosevelt

silentrun 12-03-2013 05:39 AM

Yup. Stop believing those labels and they cease to matter. Plant your flag wherever you are Tabbj and let it fly.

malcolmsloan 12-03-2013 06:11 AM

Whenever I feel like a social norm or standard is being imposed on my by something, a commercial, a tv show, a movie, a magazine cover, I think back to something my dad used to say, "no thank you, that does not apply to me."

MIRecovery 12-03-2013 06:18 AM

My sponsor used to tell me it's none of my business what other people think of me. I have learned to accept the fools right along with the Saints. They are only mean and hurtful if I let them be mean and hurtful.

When I wake up in the morning and look at myself in the mirror with all of my flaws and imperfections I like what I see because I know today I'm going to work on those flaws and imperfections and be just a little bit better than I was the day before.

People that criticize and ridicule are unhappy people so I pray for them. they feel by bringing someone else down that somehow that props them up. All I can do is feel pity for those people and pay no attention to them.

As my tagline says for once I'm at peace with myself

Threshold 12-03-2013 08:29 AM

Is society telling you that, or media?

If an institution can convince us we need what they are selling...it's too their benefit.

Society, people, rarely tell me those messages. I have friends and family that like me as I am, even delight in many things about me.

I worry a lot less about those things when I lost my TV, started listening to Pandora radio, didn't get the paper and had no magazine subscriptions. I don't think there is anything wrong with those things. I just found it hard to not internalize some of the advertising messages.

Some of us are more sensitive to that input than others. I guess I have an "allergy" to it and react very strongly and negatively.

I don't own anyone my life. If I'm happy with it, doesn't matter if they are NOT happy with it.

If I'm not happy with it, then I can choose to change things, or choose to work on getting happy with it.

Removing the messages that I shouldn't be happy with my life was a change that really improved things. It helps me enjoy who I am and what I have without static and second guessing.

foolsgold66 12-03-2013 08:38 AM

I haven't had anyone tell me any of those things lately, that I can think of.

ScottFromWI 12-03-2013 08:39 AM

What "society" thinks of us is becoming even more prevalent nowadays with social media, 24/7 "news", etc.

I've found a lot of peace in my life by realizing many of these outlets for what they are - gossip. I deleted my Facebook account about 2 years ago. I don't have a twitter account or any other like social media tool. We don't have cable or satellite TV at home either. Surprisingly to many, i don't miss any of those things - in fact i'm much happier without them.

The opinions of "society" only exist in our heads. There is no physical manifestation of any of the norms unless you decided to follow them.

laurie6781 12-03-2013 09:06 AM

For a few years into recovery I felt like I would never fit. But then at about 5 or 6 years into recovery I finally realized that for all of my life to then I had 'walked to a different drummer' and it was okay. I did not have to fit the mold that Society and advertisements were telling me.

Then I came to realize that 'what other people think of me is none of my business. "That what I and my HP think of me is."

It was okay to be different. And today I am STILL DIFFERENT, rofl

As I worked on myself in recovery I realized that one of the first things I had to do for me was to define my 'own personal moral code'. Not what someone else's 'moral code' was but my own. Once I had decided what was my own 'right and wrong' then I had to live that code 24/7 to the best of 'my ability'. As I continued to live this way a lot of 'things' changed for me, and those who did 'not approve' of me or my ways were soon gone from my life.

I have friends today who like/love me just the way I am. Asking nothing from me, but when I offer, accepting with love whatever it is that I am doing for them.

Just be the best person you can be TODAY. Some days will be better than others, but as long as you know at bedtime, that you did the best you could that day, then know you are doing what your HP desires you to do.

You are here, you are helping yourself, you are doing a good job for today!

Love and hugs,

tomsteve 12-03-2013 09:24 AM

don't generalize it. yup, theres sick people out there, but iffen ya change yer perspective and LOOK and LISTEN for good quality people, you will find them.

Hawkeye13 12-03-2013 09:39 AM

You are the only real "authority" to give your life meaning and validation.
It isn't easy sometimes, but when you can let go worrying
about other peoples judgement, life just feels so free.

Take care and believe in yourself :-)

Tabbj 12-03-2013 02:54 PM

I am not saying society is telling me this or TV, papers, mags
what I am saying is why do people try to be better than everyone else, they put their pants on the same way as I do.
I do not let any one make me feel inferior, I am the one who if someone or anything makes me feel little ... I speak my mind very clearly and loudly

AnvilheadII 12-03-2013 03:17 PM

I have had my share of being told I do not meet up to society standards !!

WHO told you this? and what is prompting this feeling of being told you are less than?

Tabbj 12-03-2013 04:14 PM

Some from my own family, others I work with, some I run into in general at the stores that have made smart remarks while standing behind you in line and so forth. I should not be so hard on myself and let others get me down.

foolsgold66 12-03-2013 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by Tabbj (Post 4326788)
Some from my own family, others I work with, some I run into in general at the stores that have made smart remarks while standing behind you in line and so forth. I should not be so hard on myself and let others get me down.

Agreed. You should not. I'm sorry, I didn't really get your post at first, you were venting! :) I try to form my opinions of others, if I do form them, by how they conduct themselves and treat other people.

SlightlyOff 12-03-2013 07:24 PM

Tabbj: for what it's worth I'm a born Midwesterner who has spent over half my life on the east coast/midwest. Then, seven years ago I'm plunk down in the heart of Texas. What a culture shock. Everything I'd been told was true: Southern women will judge you for what you're wearing, how much you weigh, how big your ring is, what you drive, how your kids/house look, and I could go on and on. And do it with a full face of makeup at 7 am!! ROTFL. When I was up north, I could go to the store/soccer games/almost anywhere on weekends without makeup and I was the majority. Here, I'd be in the looked-down on minority. I admit I have adjusted to the norms. But, it has made me feel more comfortable rather than less comfortable, because I've always been a kind of "When in Rome do as the Romans do" person, unless that meant immoral acts or giving into my addiction. I refuse to drink with these women, and so many do, although I may look like "one of them."

My humble advice would be that you're dealing with mean morons (I've noticed that being in Pennsylvania, it's getting to be cold and miserable up there too) and that doesn't help. When I go north to visit my folks or east to my in-laws I am always treated worse by people. I chalk that up to the people there rather than to anything about me. If people actually say nasty things behind you in line at a store, they have MAJOR mental/emotional issues. As others have said, I would pray for them and pity them for living such a miserable existance.

SlightlyOff 12-03-2013 07:28 PM

Also wanted to echo what Foolsgold said about judging people only on how they treat others. I've noticed in life that those people who have the most money, education or natural talent are often the most gracious and kind (that is if the money is earned through hard work). They have nothing to prove. It is the wanna-be's, the strivers, the almost-but-can't-quite-attainers that are mean and bitter. They revel in the misery of others.

True grace belongs to those who treat others with kindness and compassion, no matter how their lot in life compares to others.


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