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ScottFromWI 11-18-2013 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by Imabuleva (Post 4298826)
I have read up on Rational Recovery. I don't fully buy into it either.

I'm not into RR either personally. Having said that, i think one of the reasons that I'm having a good run of sobriety now is that I understand that there isn't going to be a recovery method that's perfectly tailored just for me. And that I have to "buy into" some things that I never bought into before. Alcoholism doesn't really care what you buy into - it just looks for ways to get you to drink again.

Perhaps that's part of your issue with not admitting you can't drink again too - trying to control something you cannot. Alcohol controls me - so I have personally needed to suck up my pride and do things I wouldnt normally do in order to get better. And guess what, it actuallly works!

hopeful4 11-18-2013 01:34 PM

Hats off to you for recognizing this and owning up to your own behavior. My AH always acts like it was not his choice to run to the gas station for a beer as soon as I walk out of the house, like some force of nature MAKES him do it. Nope, he does it because he WANTS to do it. It's a choice.

I hope you are serious about your decisions and that you continue on without making the choice to drink. Sounds like you are certainly in the right frame of mind to realize you can do this!

jazzfish 11-18-2013 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by Imabuleva (Post 4298826)
Living sober sucks (kinda at times). But living drunk sucks more.

Have you read the book "Living Sober Sucks! (but living drunk sucks more)"? It's a good read.

SnoozyQ 11-18-2013 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by Imabuleva (Post 4298652)
One thing that helps me with this is the philosophy "I'd rather think than drink." Because what I hate about alcohol most is it robs me of my brain and turns me into more or less a zombie

Perfect .

Could not have said it better ..EVER X

Imabuleva 11-18-2013 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by jazzfish (Post 4298866)
Have you read the book "Living Sober Sucks! (but living drunk sucks more)"? It's a good read.

Not gonna lie, I plagiarized the title when I wrote that :)

ZeldaFan 11-18-2013 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by Imabuleva (Post 4298691)
Then again, it's a lot like committing not not to eat rat poison for the rest of my life. So it may not be so scary after all.

Funny when you put it that way how crazy it makes consuming alcohol sound. I mean, really, it is a poison as well.

Croissant 11-18-2013 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by Imabuleva (Post 4298691)
My own fear of commitment. Then again, it's a lot like committing not not to eat rat poison for the rest of my life. So it may not be so scary after all.

I think when slips, relapses, whatever you want to call them happen, of course we make a conscious choice. I'd describe mine as a little but more like an out of body experience, and the intention was not to get drunk.

Fail number one.

My body can't deal with alcohol anymore...it's innate desire is to get drunk, smashed, written off, once I've had that one drink. It may not be straight away, maybe I can have one drink, but ultimately, my body has now programmed itself to drink like there's no tomorrow.

But there is a tomorrow. Worrying about it, bargaining with it, hoping to change it, control it, whatever....I can't do that.

All I can do is face life as the optimal version of me. And that optimal version of me is sober. It's really that simple.


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