Back from rehab, interesting reason
 

Hi,

I went to rehab a short while ago. At the risk of noone believing me and things like that, I will still tell my story.

Shortly into it, they monitored me physically. I was fine. Then there were the group sessions, the counseling stuff, everything.

One thing, if they allow you, bring your own razors. Unless you want to peel the skin off your face.

So I got into therapy, group stuff, counseling and they told me I picked it up and had some interesting insights. Eventually they got to telling me that "they had never thought of that but it was great and why are we needed? You got it better than us".

That is in fact the reason it is difficult for me to post this because noone might believe it.

Literally, I will quote, one counselor saying to another during a group session: "... I guess we're no longer needed". It wasn't tongue in cheek.

So there was nothing they could do for me. There's a lot I could do for them apparrantly.

So one specialist with an IQ which had the level that a person has that just takes the situation as it is. A person who asks "What's going on here, given that all those people think this is true?". A basic approach if you ask me...

Anyway, he simply asked me, finally the understanding I was looking for: "So you have this impact, why is drinking still a problem for you?".

I already knew the answer. I had been telling everyone and was in the process of getting that taken care of myself, in the psychiatry department.

"It's my trauma, that's it". Fortunately he believed me and I will tell you, that is the friggin reason.

So now I'm back at my parent's house. Not cured, still inclined to drink, might even do it. But the good thing is, my appointment with a psychiatric has been labeled urgent and tomorrow at 9:30 AM I have an appointment. Finally. I knew what the problem was, I can predict the outcome of the tests, and what will work as help.

I appreciate their attempt, but it wasn't what solved my problem. And when the people who treat you look at you with huge eyes of disbelief just like the people who take your IQ test, you know you're not in the right place.

Hung-over, dazed, scored a nice 169. And I really wasn't in the mood.

And P vs NP isn't solvable as far as I can tell.

I told you it would be a story difficult to believe. And what I told you is personal, which I don't like. But I chose honesty and here it is.

J.

I hope the appointment goes well tomorrow, and that you do not drink. Get a good night's sleep. Good luck.

James, i'm confused, I understand you have a profoundly gifted IQ, but it doesn't exempt you from the disease. What do you believe will help in lieu of typical treatment?

I'm glad you were able to tell your story here, James. Best of luck at your appointment tomorrow.

See emphasis. Being intelligent does not equal being smart and/or wise. IQ has never exempted anyone from any disease.

I know what will help me. Treatment of my trauma. I've said this all along and was hoping they would address it in rehab. But they couldn't wrap their minds around simple holes I pointed out in their treatment.

I knew that posting all this would not lead to many people believing it in the first place. I did make a vow to be honest within reasonable limits on here.

I know what I need and I will get it.

I've had similar reactions... especially when sectioned for mental health.
Its screwed up....

Only answer thats helped me is to do my research and educate myself in recovery! when you've been given the all clear physically of course!

By no means am I questioning the results of your IQ test. I was trying to understand what happened in the last week. I apologize if I am being nosy.I hope it goes well tomorrow and I am glad you are on a directed path.

that help to bring me to a true bottom
 

that was a good question that he asked

sounds like you were a little too puffed up with yourself
for treatment to have any effect

maybe you have not hit the real bottom yet

I pray that you don't end up suffering as I did
(long suffering from the effects of the booze drink)

the psychiatry department will probably prescribe drugs for you
usually not the long term answer if alcoholic
in the old days I mixed the drugs given with more booze
that helped to bring me to a true bottom
careful many die if mixing

Mountainman

I wish you well tomorrow with your appointment, James.

Rehab is not recovery. This is why i chose AA - seemed that there is a lot of work in finding the right professional for treatment. I can pick the meetings I want to go to and my sponsor - all chosen by me. Hope you continue a program for your sobriety.

Absolutely, in no way imaginable feel the need to apologize to me. Really, I truly appreciated your comment and don't worry about being nosy. Worst I can say is "I'd rather not talk about it". You can ask me anything.

The tone of my initial reply to you might have been wrong. It was coming from a place of happiness and appreciation because of you taking interest in my situation. I was also pretty much all over the place mentally when I responded, so I might have given off the wrong impression.

No worries at all!

Trust me, I will search until I find what works. My life depends on it.

Either one of two things is going on here. Either this is by far the worst rehab center in the history of the world or...

I'll just flat say it. I think you should have stayed and gone through the entire program. Self knowledge is not enough.

You do have to finish your sentence to make sense. :)

It's a good rehab center. Good enough to divert my trajectory to something more fruitful.

In my country, the care is among the highest ranking in the world. This place was GOOD. Just not for me.

But please do finish your sentence to make your point. :)

I disagree in this situation. If you read carefully, you would have seen that it wasn't simply a matter of self knowledge. It was them who decided I had it down already.

I don't get IQ's. I don't know what mine is. It seems that their purpose is to shape expectations and that is unfortunate I think. Hope you get what you need tomorrow. I can tell you that I am not as sharp as I was before I drank heavily every day for years. I wish I never picked up.

To clarify, since people don't seem to actually read the whole thread:

In short:

- Got there. Liked it.
- Eagerly started to give input. Which overpowered the input of the counselors.
- They hinted and at times said "We're not needed anymore" after my input.
- I shut down, unintentionally, the group counselor with an insight that they didn't have an answer to. Consistently shot holes into their philosophy.
- Got sent home after one of the counselors who did understand that hit the mark regarding my problems and got me on the right track.

That's it. This facility is top of the line. Best of the best. Just not good enough.

Anyway, as I kind of predicted, this would be received with disbelief, but I am being honest.

And no, P vs NP isn't solvable. Proof for that is worth a million bucks. I know it but don't know how to mathematically write it out.

Take it or leave it. I'm stating facts and I have, literally, no time for nonsense. So if you post, just read the thread.

J.

Thank you, but do read the entire thread, since it includes my reaction regarding IQ.

YOU should have stayed. Were you forcibly ejected, or did you leave voluntarily? How long were you there?