I believe every word of it. You went to treatment, told them how to fix you, and when they didn't fix you your way you left. Seen it a hundred times. Oddly enough, people with 70 fewer IQ points will stay the full time, work to get all they can from it and leave there and remain sober the rest of their lives.

No I shouldn't have stayed. Stop insisting on you being right. Sorry, but that's what you tend to do. (Feedback).

I left after a conversation with a counselor who agreed that another path, the one I talked about, would be better for me.

No, I shouldn't have stayed. I got the point. They told me so. I poked valid holes in their treatment. Treatment being 12-step, physical therapy, one-on-one counseling, group therapy and observation. The latter meaning them observing how everyone was doing.

This is a professional place. They let me go because it was the right thing to do. Again, to all those not following this, they arranged a follow up with the psychiatric unit where I will be taken in tomorrow.

Don't pretend you know it all.

Anyway, I'm tired of this thread. I would have liked it if people actually read it all, like I always do. But all these same things are just tiring.

I'll go on with my recovery. I doubt if I'll post anything fully if people don't actually read.

This is just as inaccurate as red being green.

Sometimes you have to change your way of life to get sober James. That means both physically what you do, where you go, and who you hang out with. It can also mean a major shift in your thinking, and opening your mind to new concepts that may seem foreign to you. I wish you the best of luck in your quest to find help.

I'm not saying I'm right, I'm stating my opinion. I read the whole thread, even the unimportant parts, most of which were all the details.

Here's the important part:

"still inclined to drink, might even do it"

If you're not willing to answer questions, I'll gladly leave you to that.

I was just reading about P / NP. Seriously. And it was mentioned during the last episode of Elementary too. I just love being au courant.

I get antsy to read that some are too smart for something or other. It makes me wonder how unsmart do you have to be?

I found it interesting to read your account, James. Hope things continue to move forward for you and you find a way to achieve that inner peace we search for. And get to work on publishing that P/NP solution, will ya?

Not really relevant and the P vs NP problem is unsolvable, but I don't ave the skills to write it out mathematically.

It is unsolvable, I know that. Can't explain it though.

I hope that I'm understanding properly.

I see no problem with you understanding why it is that you drink and what you need help with. We may be helpless in staying away from alcohol but that doesn't mean that we are completely helpless overall. Again, I'm seeing the fact that treatment for alcoholism is sometimes textbook when we, ourselves, aren't. No two experiences are the same.

In the defense of those who try to help (rehab workers) they can only use the knowledge that they have. There are always going to be circumstances that differ and it perplexes them so all that they can do is to try to fit the right peg in the right hole which is what they've learned to do.

I hope that tomorrow goes well for you. I read your first post on the day that you came here and had hope when we told you to go to the ER and you did.

I have every confidence that you're going to find your way through this and succeed James.

Since this is newcomers I leave my point to your imagination. I think you get it.

James, I used to go to an AA meeting where a respected brain surgeon would sometimes come. He had been sober a while.

You may need a highly trained specialist to help you with your underlying issues, but even computer scientists (P = NP) can get sober.

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