Cirrhosis ! God no ..not ME :( I have just found out that there are 4 stages of degenerating liver. Mild, modest , significant and cirrhosis. My doctor just told me i have stage 3 ..significant and he needs to investigate more. I am so devestated ;-( .why did i think i was so special. I dont want to die. I was ALWAYS going to stop BEFORE things got this bad . Maybe i deserve this , how selfish as a mother and wife .Wasting my years with my lover ( alcohol' ) instead of loving the things that mattered most. i probably deserve this. What do i do , where do i go , what do i say , who do i see.... head is spinning.Feeling nauseous , feeling scared..... |
What a horrible shock for you :( Wait and see how things go - might not be as bad as you think - Doctors are famous for scaring us. You really do need to take quitting seriously though (as I'm sure you already are doing) I don't have any experience of this, so will just send you a HUGE hug and I'm sure someone else will be along soon that knows what they're talking about x x |
Try not to panic Snoozy - the liver is pretty resilient...I've read some amazing recovery stories here. What until your Dr investigates more....I know it's frightening, but you may find this is not as bad as you fear. I'm not a Dr, but it stands to reason there's probably a wide array of diagnosis and damage in every 'stage'....if things were critical I'm guessing he would have been a little more insistent than he sounds like he was? Things may have kicked up a notch but you're doing all the right things now - lean on us :) D |
Hang in there and try not to worry yourself, drink plenty of water and take some walks. Do anything to maintain a positive attitude. Use it as a new beginning and hug your loved ones often. I hope all goes well for you, I'm sending you big hugs. |
Thanks Zoe and Dee, i lulled myself into a false sense of security when i took the radiographers word that all looked ok on my ultrasound , when clearly it was not. Thats why i have waited nearly 2 months to go back.i thought i was getting good news ! My liver and pancreas are fatty and they cant see scarring (cirhossis)by this method only through a liver biopsy . Doc said he is not prepared to take the risk at this pointbas its too dangerous due to bleeding out. ...i was frozen .......wanting to put my hands over my ears and go na na na na na :/ |
Hey, you're doing all the right things now and as Dee said, the liver is pretty resilient.:) We're all behind you :) (so would prefer it if you didn't break wind at this point) ;)x |
I mean this in a positive way, so don't misunderstand me. No one wants to die, but we all will. Accept that part. That said, try not to freak out. You don't know that it's bad, and you're letting your fears run away with you. Wait for more info from the doctors. Next, if you find yourself in a hole, the STOP DIGGING! Stay committed to being sober. At a minimum don't make your situation worse. As several other folks have said the body has a remarkable ability to heal itself...once you stop poisoning it. Don't drink any more alcohol, work on adopting a healthy diet and take good care of yourself. Research has pointed to Milk Thistle as being good for your liver. Again, check with the doc. It's possible that your liver has been badly damaged but usually our fears outstrip reality. What's done is done; you can't turn back the clock and undo years of drinking. But you can look forward, commit to sobriety and make the rest of your life better. Best wishes to you! I hope the news is good.:ring |
hey snoozy, I'm so sorry this has happened, please try not to think of the worst case scenario (the dr still has to investigate further). I'm sending you big hugs and hoping any further news is good.....((((hugs)))) |
Try and not worry too much until you have all the information. Keep focused on your sobriety and on having the most healthy lifestyle you can. That will stand you in good stead. Wishing you the very best. |
Snoozy I know that there are no words to say that will ease you mind right now, but you WILL get through this. Try to stay calm and get your game face on. Today is your time to fight Iike hell for you! I would google recovery from stage 3 liver disease. DO NOT read the negative posts. There are many cases where full recovery is the prognosis! The liver does regenerate. Eat a very very low fat diet with tons of fluids. Fats are hard on the pancreas and liver. We are here for you snoozy and I'm truly so sorry for your deviststing news. Get yourself an appointment with the best gastroenterologist in your area usually they are in the nearest metropolitan areas. Take a deep breath and BELIEVE everything is going to be alright! |
Good grief ! I just googled it and wished i hadn't :-( .... Not going to look any more . Im going to bed so i don't have to think . WHY do things ALWAYS seem so much worse at night time :-( :react |
I would not Google anything!. Always comes up with worst case scenario. Just keep doing all the good things that you are and stay focused on your sobriety. Stress will make everything feel so much worse. Hope you get some sleep. |
I just want to echo that last post- don't get discouraged! It's probably not as bad as you're worried that it is. And even the worst news isn't the end of the world. With time and clean living you can reverse a helluva lot of damage. Use it as a wake up call but don't get too down! |
I know people mean well but I think Googling things when you're already worried is rarely a good thing to do.... I terrified myself when I had an 'uncertain' xray a few years back. Putting my symptoms into Google convinced me I had weeks to live. It may sound funny now but it wasn't. Trust your Dr, Snoozy - they know your case and your individual circumstances - all 'Dr Google' can do is give out generic information which may or may not apply. D |
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Good grief ! I just googled it and wished i hadn't :-( .... Not going to look any more . Im going to bed so i don't have to think . WHY do things ALWAYS seem so much worse at night time :-( :react A million people can tell us we're good at something, but guaranteed, we'll believe the one miserable one that tells us we're not ;) |
Im really sorry to hear that Snoozy, but as Dee says, the liver is a very resilient organ and its not too late to run it around! All the best, I hope the news is good. |
Thank you for your support but i am just so despondent right now :( |
I'm soooooo sorry I suggested that truly I feel awful :( just wanted you to read stories of hope and recovery! My sincere apologies!!!!!!! |
Sending you hugs snoozy. Dr Google is a bad move,I know I have been guilty of consulting him over the years,never liked what he had to say.I don't do it these days,I stick to face to face consultations with Drs. Hope you feel more positive later. |
I have had several diagnoses of different, life-threatening gastric problems; numerous types of cancer; and life limiting heart and lung conditions - all diagnosed, inaccurately, by 'Dr Google'. When I have then seen my GP or Consultant, I have found Dr Google to be woefully misinformed about my condition. He/she should be 'struck off' in my opinion. On a more serious note, the liver is an incredible organ which is capable of healing and regenerating itself. You need to wait and see what your medics have to say and what advice and treatment they recommend for you, and stop Googling in between! Their priority is helping you, and they will. |
Originally Posted by SnoozyQ
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I have just found out that there are 4 stages of degenerating liver. Mild, modest , significant and cirrhosis. My doctor just told me i have stage 3 ..significant and he needs to investigate more. I am so devestated ;-( .why did i think i was so special. I dont want to die. I was ALWAYS going to stop BEFORE things got this bad . Maybe i deserve this , how selfish as a mother and wife .Wasting my years with my lover ( alcohol' ) instead of loving the things that mattered most. i probably deserve this. What do i do , where do i go , what do i say , who do i see.... head is spinning.Feeling nauseous , feeling scared..... And don't even think you deserve this! Just continue on with sobriety, good eating, lots of water and exercise!! |
Hey Snoozey , Hang on in there :You_Rock_ Get through moment by moment if need be , this thing was there before diagnosis and you were ok , you can be ok post diagnosis . be brave , m |
Thanks everyone. Well its 4 am and i woke hoping it was a bad dream . But alas ...its real life , my life! I am NOT going to google again , but please ..IMPERFECTLYME don't feel bad honey, i know you were just trying to help.i just got up and had a big glass of water and my new life starts today. Need to chuck out all the crap from my pantry and get onto healthy milk butter and salads ( yuk ) gags ! Thank you all fir being here as Dee said , to lean on.i think i will be needing you for the time being. Normally in the middle of the night , i would stress something chronic. Now i have all of you and its not so bad. Much love .... Xxxxxx:ring:ring. :tyou |
Snoozy I'm so glad you accepted my apology I felt sad all day that I hurt you. Been praying for you ALL day as well!!! |
Thanks lovely , you didn't hurt me at all . It was MY choice to google .Just as it was always MY choice to lift an alcoholic glass to my lips. No apology needed . Hugz. Xx |
save what you have left
Originally Posted by SnoozyQ
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My doctor just told me i have stage 3 ..significant and he needs to investigate more. I am so devastated What do i do , where do i go , what do i say , who do i see.... head is spinning.Feeling nauseous , feeling scared..... the main thing to do is stay sober a Lady friend of mine years ago in basically your same condition was told by her doctor that if she stopped drinking and taking her pills she probably had some very good years yet ahead of her if not she would die in 5 years almost to the day she died 5 years later with a mouthful of booze washing down a handful of pills she was just under 50 years old the booze and pills had rotted her liver out save what you have left of yours by staying totally sober Mountainman |
Good luck Snoozy. I myself need to go get checked out googling it has made me so paranoid. |
.. and possibly ignoring those, who I pray, will never become therapists ;) |
After a bout in the emergency room two years ago the doctor put in my medical records that I had alcoholic liver failure just because my count was so high--two years later my counts are normal and liver is fine--hang i there--I will say a prayer for you! |
Let me tell you about Dr Google... a few months ago, I noticed a freckle on my left palm and one on my right - now according to Dr Google I had skin cancer. My own mind decided it had spread (coz I had one on my right hand) My Doctor nearly passed out laughing!!! Dr Google AND RELATED MED SITES- are run by healthcare people who HAVE A SOLE INTEREST in selling drugs to health care people! think! Thankfully TRAINED Doctors etc - know the difference!! :) |
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