I was open and respectful to the social workers in my DUI driver intervention program. Some of it is very forceful, but as long you don't ostensibly resist it, it can be very informative. For me, I am an alcoholic so that exposure helps now in my recovery. In other words, there are people who need to hear that message (i.e. me), so don't get too wound up with the rhetoric...

I actually had something to my head when I was pulled over. Not going into the details other than I maybe had a couple of shots of rum when I got pulled over. Because I was agitated and suicidal the cops said I refused, which I did not. Didnt matter, people on here still say I'll deserve it. Had a one year suspension, at least 1000 grand in fines, lawyer costs, mandatory alcohol highway safety school. All because I was suicidal and had a couple shots. Yet I deserve it. How dare I be suicidal. By he way,
The cops smashed my face into the curb breaking my glasses, dragged me accross the concrete bloodying my knees and dislocated my shoulder. Guess I deserved it, right?

Served me right. There is a lot fo self humiliation and self hatred which I refuse to partake in. No offense to you at all. And I apprectaie your reply. This is mainly for the "judgement" crowd here to see.

Im sorry, I can't respond to judgmental posts without (biting my tongue). And Im here because I want to be here. Judge not lest ye be judged is so passe'.
Thanks

I hear what you are saying, but I did not hurt anything or anyone. If people do then it should be an extenuating circumstance in a DUI homicide then. I dont make it a point to drink and drive.

I suppose I have to exacty like minded then to want to be here. Surely everyone who has ever come here were completely accepting of everying that is "sobriety".

Once I got my DWI, I was court ordered to go to AA meetings. I went halfheartedly, and stopped when it was no longer required of me legally. But once I did truly want to get sober, I knew what AA and recovery programs were about in general, and could use that information willingly.

Notofeudalism,

I think what people are trying to figure out is are you here seeking help and encouragement or what? I am sorry you went through a hard time and that you were suicidal and treated like sh*it from the cops, BUT in all honesty, a minute amount of alcohol can impair your judgement (and yes, talking on the phone, texting, being tired etc etc can do the same as well), alcoholic or not, so I am glad you were pulled over. I would want my own self to be pulled over as well...anyway...Do you wanna talk about why you were suicidal? Are you getting some help?

~Jade

I drove drunk, did not care about anyone but myself, wanted to get more beer!! How insane is that.
Yes, the cops did treat U bad, that was not necessary. They treated me well, I was an ass...LOL.
Cost me way more, both times, not just the MONEY, but my self-repect and filled with shame and remorse... I COULD OF KILLED someone.
I know U feel U do not deserve this, but there R laws...........
Stay strong! Do U personally think that maybe U have a problem? Hey, maybe U don't.
I do and I will never drink again, staying in the day, keeping it simple........

I will say whatever you think works. The telling part is "but once I did truly want to get sober".

I dont need a doorknob or the flying spaghetti monster to tell me that, but to each his own. Im sorry but I cant get into AA and wont debate about it.

This really is a sobriety board, not a mental health board, but if you want to know I can go into detail. And yes I have been drinking heavily for a long time and it is part of it.

Oh, I don't go to AA meetings, mainly out of laziness. This place functions in the same capacity for me as meetings right now. But the Big Book has been a good read.

What the cops did to me was criminal, but most will overlook that ad say I deserved it. Irony is lost here unfortunately. Laws for me but not for thee. The point is I DID NOT KILL anyone. The law is an azz, to quote Mark Twain. But most wont question here I suppose. And life goes on, such as it is.

""After all, those who did drive drunk and hurt or killed someone didn't intend to do it. Something to think about.""

I think you forgot your irony tag.

I know this is not a mental health board, but in one way or another we all have our own emotional demons we deal with. Sorry for asking man. I wish you tons of luck!!! Hope to see you around =)

~Rebecca
aka Jade

Like I said Im trying to be respectful. I cant debate about AA without exposing it and possibly hurting other's feelings who believe and have faith in it.

Thanks, and I have no prob discussing why I was suicidal, if ou want to know.

A few things:

1. Unfortunately cops mistreat people often and there is rarely something that can be done which is wrong but the way things work (I used to work at a criminal defense law firm) so the best you can do for yourself with that is let it go. It may be hard but you will get no justice.

2. You have to go to AA right? Court mandated and you are angry about that. I would have been to. I am very much a girl who has to do things my own way. However, if I would rather go to AA than go to jail. So that being said you may as well make the best of it. You say you were suicidal and that the drinking had something to do with it. I bet if you go to an AA meeting and sit down and share with the room, I know this will be extremely hard, that you attempted suicide, you will be in utter shock at how many others have had similar experiences in the room. Or if you don't want to share something that personal with a room full of strangers you may as well sit and listen to people's experiences. Forget about buying the program or accepting the rules for now, just listen and see if anything seems similar to your experiences. I don't know, you have to go, why not at least try to get something out of it.

I will adress your 2nd point first. I have been to dozens of AA meetings. They are a religious cult. They have been deemed as such by the US Supreme Court and people can not be forced to go to the. I will leave it at that.

Your first point makes me very sad. Just let aggravated assault go? Its that it? It was criminal and why you have millions of people who are very angry and, well I will not say any more about what. It is attitudes such as yours that perpetuate the police state and police abuses, and they are fought everyay successfully.
I will not sit here and listen about how I deserve everything I get, yet be told a police beating is a-ok and just just be forgotten about. Perhaps then my DUI should be forgotten about. I can't stand blatant hypocrisy and ignorance. Sorry.

This is a peer support forum for those who want support for recovery from addcition. We are not here to debate about outside agendas.

Debating whether laws are right or wrong is outside the scope of this forum.
Debating whether court ordered treatment is right or wrong is outside the scope of this forum.
Debating whether a recovery program is right or wrong is also outside the scope of this forum.

We are here to give help and get help. There are many forums so you should be able to find one that is comfortable. If not there are other recovery forums that might fit your needs better.

There is nothing anyone can do here to change your circumstances.
There are many here who will offer support if you decide to quit drinking.

Thanks, then why are other free to post about it until I question it? I see those topics and more on every thread being debated. You banned me from chat, why not others who bring up similar topics? I am comfortable here talking, unless I am not to question posts that tell me that I deserve what I get. I didnt ask to have my circumstances changed. I have thanked people for their support here and not everybody comes immediately deciding to quit drinking.