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australia 02-21-2007 12:56 PM

how do i begin...
 
Hi there everone! I have been drinking myself into a stupor for twenty years now. Every morning I feel like crap and every morning I swear I will stop. Its killing me. I know this. Half of the time I cant even go out the front door for fear that I will have to face reality.
How do you not have that drink? How do you remember that drinking is only going to make you feel like poo? I can usually last a day or two and then it all seems ok. So I start again. What makes you remember?

Anna 02-21-2007 01:26 PM

Hi Australia,

Welcome!

There is lots of support here. What worked for me at the beginning was changing patterns and routines. I made myself do different things at different times and it worked for me.

chrisj728 02-21-2007 01:30 PM

Hi OZ! welcome, your in the right place to get that one answered.
The first thing I had to do was to addmit that I was beaten.That alcohol had taken me to hell and the only way back was for me to change.I first tried limiting the amount I drank but that was futile,within days I was back on the sauce trail drinking more & more.Eventualy I turned to AA for help,firstly I gained an insight as to why I drank as I did and why I couldnt stop.Then they gave me a programe of recovery. I'm 52 days sober now and I remember not to drink by using the tools they gave me.
Give AA a go its worked for this pomm!
chris

australia 02-21-2007 01:40 PM

Thanks. Ive tried AA about four times over the years. I hate the meetings. I have a real problem talking to people. I dont like to be approached. Every time I have gone to the meetings strangers come up and talk to me and ask me personal questions that I feel are inappropriate. I know they are just trying to be nice and helpful and comforting. But I just want to sit and listen alone. I dont like touching strangers or strangers touching me. The hand holding at the end of the meetings really freaks me out. I dont want to say anything though because it would draw attention to me and make me look stupid. Maybe I am stupid.. I'm afraid of everything ...I can't answer the phone, I run up the hallway and hide if someone knocks at the door...
I dont want to face anything ever...think ill have a drink, that will make me feel better...ah there's the rub...you see it does make me feel better...but only until I wake up...wanting to die

CarolD 02-21-2007 01:40 PM

Welcome to SR!

I suggest you begin with an honest talk with
your doctor.
As you have been drinking for awhile
de toxing alone is not wise.

You might also consider seeing a therapist
for while.

It's great to see a new member.

ayla zaire 02-21-2007 01:50 PM

welcome to sr, australia.....carol is right....a doctor and a therapist can really help you, and it will be safer for you to detox under a doctor's care....

the good thing about doctors is you can tell them anything, and it's confidential......so if you have a hard time opening up, it may help to do it with someone you know will not judge you...

you have found a good place here....

hugs
ayla

australia 02-21-2007 01:51 PM

Ive talked to my doctor before too...not really much help there...been in many types of therapy before...with and without medication...just cant seem to stick to anything...I'm not crazy or anything. To most of the outside world I am a together motivated mother who has brought up an amazing child...
How can I destroy that illusion? It's all I have...if people knew who I really was...I'd lose everything...
people would think that I was just another crappy single mother...

australia 02-21-2007 01:55 PM

not that people dont see me drunk...thats one reason why Im afraid to go anywhere... because of embarrassment...and fear of judgement

Thankyou for your replies...it is nice to know that people will listen :)

What do you mean about detoxing danger? What could happen? How would I know if something bad was happening? What should I be looking out for or worried about? Could I possibly ask anymore questions in this stream? he he

Jersey Nonny 02-21-2007 01:59 PM

Welcome to Sober Recovery...and, that's the name of the game: Sober Recovery. Except, it isn't a game...it's truly a life or death decision you must make. Just not to take that one drink, one day at a time...not simple, but well worth the effort.

An initial visit to a doctor is a really good idea...quitting "cold turkey" can be painful, as well as dangerous. As far as the meetings are concerned...try going to Open Speaker meetings where no one will usually confront you or "ask you questions". No one will know whether you're there for yourself or just checking it out for a friend or family member.

I know other folks have done it without AA...but, as a 27+ year sober alcoholic...I cannot recommend the program highly enough. Good luck and keep us posted on your progress.

chrisj728 02-21-2007 02:01 PM

Hey OZ, thats fine if you cant do AA theres other programes for you,but acceptance is the key in all.Once you accept that you have a problem with alcohol part of the guilt is lifted from you.Then if you accept that its a disease and not a weakness more guilt will leave you.Once we have reached those decissions,we can then attempt to rid ourselves of the cause of the problem by trying not to take the first drink,not easy but possible.

Golfman 02-21-2007 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by australia (Post 1219493)
Ive talked to my doctor before too...not really much help there...been in many types of therapy before...with and without medication...just cant seem to stick to anything...I'm not crazy or anything. To most of the outside world I am a together motivated mother who has brought up an amazing child...
How can I destroy that illusion? It's all I have...if people knew who I really was...I'd lose everything...
people would think that I was just another crappy single mother...


Hey Aussie,

You are right to describe it as an illusion. It's not the real you. It takes a tremendous amount of energy to keep up that illusion. You must be exhausted trying to be what you think everyone else wants you to be. Take a minute and imagine you had no one to please but you. What do you want to be and how do you want to see yourself?

I was raised by my Mom after my Dad dies when I was two. She had no skills whatsoever. I saw the struggle she went through on a daily basis trying to provide for my sister and me. She wasn't an alcoholic, but she still had many tough times because she was along. I can remember finding her curled up in a corner crying just because she felt so alone and scared.

Why don't you try this for now. Keep posting here and telling us how you're feeling. You don't have to go into intimate details. Although, since this place is completely anonymous, it would make any difference if you did. If you feel like you want to confide in one of us, send us a private message and we'll converse one on one. No one ever turned their life around in a day, a week, or a month. It usually take much longer to get to the root causes of what's going on inside. You've been very brave just by sharing what you have so far. We will love you as long as it takes for you to begin loving yourself. YOU ARE WORTH IT!!!!!!

australia 02-21-2007 02:10 PM

thankyou all xxx.
I've always thought of myself as a functioning alcoholic. Sometimes non-functioning, depending on the day. But I cant function any more. I find it hard to think of it as a disease though. It's a bloody lack of will power and stupid addiction...I think I'm giving myself a cop out if I dont think of it that way. I cant be forgiving to myself because then im saying its ok... that I have no control...so i'm not responsible for my actions. And I have to take responsibility because it is I who puts that damn drink in my mouth and I have to answer for it. Does that make sense?

australia 02-21-2007 02:23 PM

Thankyou golfman. That text actually made me cry. you are right..it is exhausting and im so tired. Im so tired of being afraid that at any moment ill be found out. Im tired of having to continually go into damage control..Im so tired of creating a different person for every occasion. i have been creating personalities for so long that i dont know which one is really me. Im afraid that there is no real me. Im afraid of social occasions because my different lives might have to come together and all the work ive put into being what different people want, or think i should be, would be exposed for what it is...a big fat lie.. and then everone would know that I am nothing.
Im so tired...

Pilgrim 02-21-2007 02:36 PM

Hi Ozzy,

I am a single Mother of 3 too. I started a thread called Newbie looking for friends.

I am too new to tell you how to do it. I just want you to know that there are people here who understand.

Good luck - just for today.

xxx

chrisj728 02-21-2007 02:38 PM

OZ, I was also a people pleaser,I to had a different role I played with many people.As an alcoholic myself as long as I kept up those pretences I convinced myself that drinking was ok! but at 52 days sober I now know that I cant pretend anymore,that yes I could drink and lie to people but realy I would only be lieing to myself.A stark realisation but the truth.
chris

lostmdboy 02-21-2007 02:40 PM

Hey!

I know the first days are hard. It useually is a battle that you need plenty of ammo to fight. Once through the first weeks though your mind will start to clear, and you will begin to see the life you have been missing. I am not a touchy feely guy my self, and do not like to talk in groups. So it is ok for me not to talk there. There is so much love and support there though that personally I feel great when I leave. AA and this board are what helped me make it what is now 51 days. See I really do not know any more. There is just too much living to do to be in a drunk stuper. Good luck! I hope you find what you are looking for.

australia 02-21-2007 04:20 PM

Repeat of question
 

Originally Posted by australia (Post 1219499)
What do you mean about detoxing danger? What could happen? How would I know if something bad was happening? What should I be looking out for or worried about?

If anyone knows? Ta

nogard 02-21-2007 04:29 PM

Hi australia,

Welcome to Sr :) glad you found us and good to have another Ozzie here.

Warm in Adelaide today?

Kevin

CarolD 02-21-2007 04:39 PM

Here is a link with our personal experiences
Mine is on page 5

http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...at-expect.html

Be safe

Golfman 02-22-2007 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by australia (Post 1219534)
Thankyou golfman. That text actually made me cry. you are right..it is exhausting and im so tired. Im so tired of being afraid that at any moment ill be found out. Im tired of having to continually go into damage control..Im so tired of creating a different person for every occasion. i have been creating personalities for so long that i dont know which one is really me. Im afraid that there is no real me. Im afraid of social occasions because my different lives might have to come together and all the work ive put into being what different people want, or think i should be, would be exposed for what it is...a big fat lie.. and then everone would know that I am nothing.
Im so tired...


Karla,

There is a real you there. You're just scared like we all were at one time. Take a deep breath, remember how dedicated you are to your daughter. Then give that same level of dedication to yourself. YOU ARE WORTH IT!!!!!

australia 02-22-2007 06:21 AM

thankyou

lovecat 02-22-2007 06:39 AM

Hi guys , I have only just found this site by looking for help on internet, I to am stuggling so badly with my alchoholism ( there ive said it ) I can go only one day without drinking ( i drink about 2 1/2 bottles of 12% wine per day. ) I also consider im a functioning alcoholic , I hold down a very responsible full time career & like you australia i am terrified of being found out. I desperatly want to stop but dont seem to have the will power. I have already lost my driving licsene to my great shame . can day one really become sobriety for ever

hope3 02-22-2007 06:44 AM

Hi auatralia: to answer your question:
Originally Posted by australia
What do you mean about detoxing danger? What could happen? How would I know if something bad was happening? What should I be looking out for or worried about?

Read these exerpts from under the influence that greentea was nice enough to post, they will answer alot of your questions!

http://www.soberrecovery.com/index.html

((((((((((((((hope3)))))))))))

australia 02-22-2007 06:47 AM

i cant answer about day one...but day two hundred seems great! I dont know how to get there though...
you and I are the same lovecat....
I want day one to start now..
I drink soooo much...
I am drinking now...
I hate it...
A carton of beer a day...thats thirty (we now have thirty can cartons here in australia)
I cant find he will power either...but I cant live like this...
Listen and look through this site though...
I found it yesterday and have been on ever since...
Its helpful..

lovecat 02-22-2007 07:00 AM

Each day I get up & feel like s*** promising myself that today i will not drink & guess what .... i do & so secretly to ... so many hiding places I even go to the gym with a bottle of orange fanta laced with vodka ..... I hate it so much to ..... i am also drinking now but maybe you and me can make a pack that day one WILL be tommorrow ....

lovecat 02-22-2007 07:03 AM

My family have no idea how much i drink ....... they just think that when i pass out on family gatherings its because i cant drink much ......... if only they knew that i would have had at least 2 bottles of wine before ......

australia 02-22-2007 07:09 AM

I know exactly what you mean!
I always said I just couldnt hold my booze....
ha...! If only they knew....
But how can you go to a family event without drinking first?
How?

australia 02-22-2007 07:14 AM

just went back and saw other message...
I take drinks with me everywhere i go too....
And I hate the sneaky lying person i have become...
i hate that i cant do anything without booze anymore...
I cant do anything
Because that is who i am...
that is how i function...
but I dont want to be like this anymore
i dont want to wake up tomorrow feeling like crap
I want to live

teej 02-22-2007 07:43 AM

yoda!
 

Originally Posted by australia (Post 1219408)
Hi there everone! I have been drinking myself into a stupor for twenty years now. Every morning I feel like crap and every morning I swear I will stop. Its killing me. I know this.

Wanna hear something weird? What you said above, I have read the same from a lot of people.
I would always swear I would quit in the "evening" when I had a snoot full. I never felt that way in the mornings when I had my hangover. All I thought about in the mornings was I need beer to get rid of this hangover. I would be angry with myself in the evening after drinking all day, knowing that the cycle was going to start all over in the morning.

:headbange

hope3 02-22-2007 07:44 AM

Hi again australia, just noticed something, you are in the venting stage, working up the courage to put down that drink.

Any and all good advise given right now will not help you right now,

I say this with good intentions, please keep an open mind.

It's ok to vent, and do what you are doing...I just would ask you to
look again at this thread when you are not drinking and absorb the good advise and wisdom thats here from many people who have been where you are right now...

Bless you, I wish you the best, ((((((((((hope3))))))))


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