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Dee74 04-25-2014 07:19 PM

Class of July 2013 Pt 11
 
we continue from here: http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...t-10-a-20.html
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Croissant 04-25-2014 07:30 PM

Haha....yeah, that may be part of why I avoided it as a hobby, Bob! Lol.

I just googled a bit...and you've inspired me. I think once I sort this job situation out I may have a new hobby!

SnoozyQ 04-25-2014 10:47 PM

Thanks for cleaning the tank Dee :lmao

SnoozyQ 04-25-2014 10:52 PM

Ps Bob , since when have you ever hogged the forum hahaha , you are lucky to get a word in edgeways with all us chicks in here lol !

Absolutely LOVE the fish pics thankyou :-) there is something so serene about fish.

What camera did you use Bob , it's Chrystal clear , just spectacular :-) xx

resolute50 04-26-2014 07:47 AM

Yeah, a new clean tank to swim in.
I'll have to check what camera it is,Snoozy. But it was only like $100 camera.
Actually has a fish tank setting on it.lol

Well guy and gals, I reached the 9 month mark today.
I know sometimes it seems like I'm breezing through this, but I had a rough time Wed. night as I was alone and had some dark thoughts.
Anybody else getting bugged with the" when you reach a year, you should have a drink to celebrate"?
Man, if that aint crazy AV talk in my head.

It's a rainy day here so I'll do some maintenance on the tank and some other indoors projects. And of coarse check in on my friends here.
Take care everybody.

Leshar 04-26-2014 07:48 AM

Hi all, we little fishes have made it to part 11. That makes me happy!

Its wet and dreary here. I had wanted to do some spring yard clearing but won't be able to. I'll clear things out of most rooms this weekend and put them in my office room, the one room the cleaners will not clean, so that breakables etc are out of the way.

I might go to the local symphony tonight, if I can get a rush ticket. Nothing of much interest to me in the movies. How was your movie, Croissant?

Leshar 04-26-2014 07:55 AM

Bob, so happy for you! 9 months, yay!!

Listen, I get it. I've been watching Mad Men, and all that drinking triggers me a bit, I have to admit. I start hearing myself thinking about how I'm missing out on silly fun, goofing around, the taste etc. but you're right it is that sneaky AV! Don't listen!
Actually, for me, a year will make me feel, I think at least, that I've come thru so much, that I will have more confidence that yes, this is really real, this is the me I should have been long ago!
Hold onto that, dear pal! Post in the dark times, we are all here for each other.

Croissant 04-26-2014 08:12 AM

Congrats on 9 months Bob!

Well, I have to say, my most recent slip scared the hell out of me. For good. The one I had in October was bad, but I was on a bender, really for a couple of days. But it's not worth the risk, Bob...or Leshar...

So, the last and final time in Feb...I somehow convinced myself 3 drinks was ok. Respectable even. In that moment. Even though deep down I hated myself for weakening. Hours later in bed...I had the scariest heart palpitations ever, relentless to the point I sat up and considered calling an ambulance.

So that's it. At what point will my body shut down completely and tell me no more alcohol? Well, I think it's already reached that point. It was also that point where I put my grief aside....the reason I drank....and realised my sobriety is the most precious thing, because it's my life.

Leshar 04-26-2014 08:41 AM

I was just googling around Don Draper of Mad Men re alcohol and found this, I thought it was very interesting, and I identified with some elements. Don't think there's any spoilers in there. I'm just finishing up season 6.


The diagnosis: Basically, a drunk.

Scott Bienenfeld, CEO & medical director of Rebound Brooklyn

"I think Don's an alcoholic, and that's his overarching problem. For some addicts and alcoholics, it's just about straight-up drugs and alcohol, but for him, it's deeper — he's a complicated character with a history of trauma and loss. We learned about his father early on. I don't know if his dad was a drinker, but probably. It's also clear he has issues around adult female role models. But before he could work on any of these other issues, he would need to get clean and sober.

"There's clearly a good guy in there. He's not a malicious, uncaring guy, but he's very defended. And that's alcoholism — when the feelings get even a little bit intense, boom: bottle. Happy, sad, painful, whatever — boom, you drink. There's no way any specialist would get anywhere with him with medication or psychotherapy until he was clean. He's a damaged guy, but he's intelligent. He's a poster child for the myth that if you love your job, have a beautiful wife and an amazing apartment, then you can't be an alcoholic. He represents this era of excessive consumption and a bottomless search for fulfillment."

The treatment plan: "I'd suggest rehab or AA before anything else. The idea that he would be able to stay clean and sober in an environment where there's constant access to alcohol is unlikely. He would also probably need a medically supervised detox. But for Don Draper, the idea of going through life without alcohol would be like ripping a Band-Aid off a third-degree burn. That's how noxious his issues probably feel to him."

Ladybug2 04-26-2014 08:43 AM

Hi everyone!

Bob, beautiful fish tank/fish!! Thanks for sharing. My daughter LOVES fish tanks and any fish resembling Nemo and Dory :)

Snoozy, if everything goes well at the Drs I would love to post a pic for you all, but someone will have to walk me through how to post pics on here ;)

Beautiful Saturday here and we are stuck inside cleaning out/organizing our disgusting basement. It is something that has needed to get done and this is one of the few weekends we have free so we are forcing ourselves to do it. Back in the day I would have started drinking by now (noon) to make it more "fun" and to motivate/reward myself. Sometimes my mind still goes there, but it feels good to finally realize that I don't need alcohol to do everything and anything. I guess this is how normal people live, huh?? :)

Have a great weekend, friends!! Xxxx

Ladybug2 04-26-2014 08:48 AM

Oh and congrats on 9 months, Bob!!!

My last, and final, slip was in March so I only have a little over a month under my belt, but I have been at this since last April so it feels like much longer. My mind thinks so much differently now so I guess that is progress?

SnoozyQ 04-26-2014 02:33 PM

Bob 9 months ;-) great effort , my friend , that means I'm 10 months tomorrow , i lose track until i see you post yours lol ;-)

Ladybug:JG , I'll gladly walk you through the photo process if it means we get to see a pic of 'peanut' ;-) luvya xxxxx hugs ;-)

:nyc:nyc:nyc

SnoozyQ 04-26-2014 02:36 PM

Off to work i go .......zzzzzzzz just wanna pull the covers back over my head , Holly's a miss fidget anyhow lol ...elbows in my face all night arghhhhhhh. Xxxx

Check in later , i expect lots of interesting things for me to read upon my return ...no pressure !

:p

resolute50 04-26-2014 06:36 PM

Hey everybody,

I cleaned up some junk that was laying around down in the filter room for my tank.
Cleaned up a spare 20 gallon tank for a turtle that my wife and daughter found last year.
He's in a 10 gallon right now, but want to give him more room.
Get this I walk by my reef tank and noticed the female clown fish laying eggs on the glass. :0
I'll post a picture when my daughter brings home my camera.lol

I took the dog for a walk in the misty rain. Walked past a club I used to frequent and an old drinking pal called out for me to stop and have a beer.
No can do, kept on walking. :)
I am NOT screwing this up. I love being sober.

Leshar 04-26-2014 09:50 PM

Nice post Bob! I'm rather fond of turtles. When I was a teenager, I had a habit of pulling my turtle neck sweater neck up over my mouth and nose in physics class, don't really know why, nervous habit I guess, and the teacher began calling me "the turtle"!

I helped a great big snapping turtle across a country road last fall. I manoeuvred him onto a car mat and dragged him safely across. I knew better than to pick him up! They're really wondrous creatures imo. You're so nice to give your turtle a bigger home!

I got a rush seat for the symphony, Beethoven's ninth, and a lovely choir. I notice I'm so much more enraptured with music concerts now I'm sober. Before, I'd be distracted, always thinking about getting wine at the intermission. Got a bit wistful, thinking of how I must have annoyed my hb so much, a few times I even wanted to leave, go home at intermission. I have to accept this pain, regret. And just be the best person I can be, now.

Croissant 04-26-2014 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by resolute50 (Post 4616456)
I took the dog for a walk in the misty rain. Walked past a club I used to frequent and an old drinking pal called out for me to stop and have a beer.
No can do, kept on walking. :)
I am NOT screwing this up. I love being sober.

Good on you, Bob.

I know this is your longest time being sober....but in previous times, did you ever go to AA? Leshar, Snoozy and Ladybug...(and you sneaky lurkers!)....anyone been to AA?

Croissant 04-26-2014 09:59 PM


Originally Posted by Leshar (Post 4616766)
I got a rush seat for the symphony, Beethoven's ninth, and a lovely choir. I notice I'm so much more enraptured with music concerts now I'm sober. Before, I'd be distracted, always thinking about getting wine at the intermission. Got a bit wistful, thinking of how I must have annoyed my hb so much, a few times I even wanted to leave, go home at intermission. I have to accept this pain, regret. And just be the best person I can be, now.

I've noticed that too, the impatience of wanting something over with, so I could get home and drink. Drinking when out lost it's appeal early on in my drinking career.

resolute50 04-27-2014 06:23 AM


Originally Posted by Croissant (Post 4616770)
Good on you, Bob.

I know this is your longest time being sober....but in previous times, did you ever go to AA? Leshar, Snoozy and Ladybug...(and you sneaky lurkers!)....anyone been to AA?

Actually Crois, I quit back in 07 when I started the reef tank hobby.
I went 14 months before I decided that I could "manage" drinking.
Big disaster.

I only went to AA years ago when I was in my 30s to support my younger brother.He doesn't really have drinking problem, but, was struck by mental illness in his teens.

I avoid crowds at all cost, AA would not be for me.
I have only been to Boston a few times in my life, country boy here.

Croissant 04-27-2014 07:06 AM

Oh, God lmao, sorry Bob....I have mistakenly hit the "Report Post" button, not realised, written the below response to you and hit what I thought was "submit reply"...but it was "submit report"...oops.

Dee, please tell me I am not the only Gumby who has ever done that?

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Oh, thanks Bob...for some reason I thought this was the longest time for you. Ack...I've read too many stories here! Sorry!

Thanks for answering...I contemplated it in the first month or so. I'm kinda glad I didn't...I'm similar to you in some ways. Plus, I've come to se SR as a good resource for me.

Leshar 04-27-2014 07:16 AM

Hi, Croissant, I went to AA for about two months in early 2012. As an atheist, I found it very difficult to accept the, what for this community anyway, were
fairly strong Christian undertones. And I could not get my head around the concept of a "higher power".
Also, I found the "drunkalogues" I guess you'd call them, unsettling, not funny at all.
I had planned to try and stick with it, but I have to admit, I fled in terror when I encountered a former patient at one of the meetings, funny enough, a fellow MD. I did speak to her briefly, I could have left the meeting without doing so, but she had seen me, and I thought it best to just speak with her. She was very gracious, told me about how she had progressed with a sponsor. But I just couldn't go back, even to other meetings which weren't her home group. My shame sensors were too active after that encounter.

It's funny, through being a part of SR, and all i have learned through this fantastic community, I do now feel the presence of a calm, serene, "spirit" within me, part of me, yet apart too, and I accept this entity as my higher power, she directs me into better pastures.

I don't see myself trying AA again. Croissant, are you thinking about AA? Have you ever tried it?


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