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itisatruth 09-09-2008 05:35 AM

Insanity
 
I just have to get this out.

My AH woke me up at 1:00am pounding on my bedroom door yelling that he was bleeding. I open the door to see blood all over him and his ear half-way torn off. He's got some crazy story about being at a party and getting into a crash on the way home -- even though I know he was home all night. He was and is delusional. Rushed to the ER. The ear, nose, & throat specialist was able to reattach the ear. The whole time he is saying things that don't make sense and talking to people who aren't even around. He must have taken something but I don't know what -- I've never seen him like this before. He did tell me yesterday he bought pills from a guy at work. But this is just too crazy. One doctor wanted to keep him for observation but the primary doc gave him something to calm him down and sent us home. There is blood all over the house. He doesn't remember what happened. This is just so sad.

So glad SR is here.

MsPINKAcres 09-09-2008 06:01 AM

how terrifying for you and how disappointing that the dr would not keep him for observation and evaluation for what is really going on with AH.

My thoughts & prayers go out for both of you.

Prayers of peace and comfort for you

HUGS,
Rita

rahsue 09-09-2008 06:16 AM

oh my gosh, i would have had a heart attack. it must have been like waking up to a nightmare. hope he gets the help he needs and I hope you stay well.

JMFburns 09-09-2008 06:29 AM

Yikes, sorry you had to deal with that insanity.

Too bad he didn't just call 911, too bad they didn't keep him for observation - too bad he isn't able to deal with his addiction on his own.

Sending hugs your way and hoping you take care of yourself.

Serenity Bound 09-09-2008 06:32 AM

hugs & prayers coming your way!

cece 09-09-2008 06:33 AM

Wow
what a rough night.
sometimes ER doctors can only deal with the immediate problem. Its sad because sometimes thats the only time an Addict will seek help is in an emergency, when they don't have a choice, so the real problem is ignored and the emergency symptom is treated.
Sorry for your anxiety, pain, and loss of sleep.
Maybe when his ear hurts so close to his head some reality with sink in it. At least with stitches he can't sober up and forget about it quickly.:skillet

StillLearning1 09-09-2008 07:02 AM

Itsatruth-
I am sorry you went through that.
You will probably not like hearing what I am going to say. Take what you like and leave the rest.
Fear is not always a lack of faith- it is a normal, healthy and protective feeling.

I am worried about YOU. If your husband was delusional last night and it appears- sounds like, he hurt himself. I'm sorry but, in my opinion you can not trust him.
It could have been you. To give him a pill to calm him down and send him home with you, was (my opinion) very irresponsible of the medical staff.
He was acting insane- I would not ignore that. If I were you- I would bring him back to the er and request that he be put on a 72 hour hold, so that his mental state can be observed and treated by professionals. Psych professionals.
Just my opinion, but it looks to me, like he is a danger to himself and very possibly could be a danger to you.

Sorry- but I have to tell you, my opinion. This is enabling his disease. Addiction and insanity- don't be confused by the physical blood and emergency doctors. Taking him home and putting him in bed. He needs help. It may not be so easy to get him help in the future. So obvious. To others, to yourself or to him.
Take care.

BayAreaPhoenix 09-09-2008 07:53 AM

(((itsatruth)))

First of all, Wow - glad you made it thru the night. That being said, I have to say that I agree with StillLearning. Hoping you are doing what you need to do to take care of yourself!

Abundance 09-09-2008 10:59 AM

Truth....... thinking of you today..... I'm so sorry. It sounds like a van gogh thing. ???

Please keep us updated. xoxoox

NeedingHelp7 09-09-2008 11:15 AM

Oh boy!! He doesn't remember what happened? Said he was at a party, got in a crash? And in "reality" he was home. That is aweful

Truth, I agree he should have been kept in the hospital for observation.

Chino 09-09-2008 12:31 PM

Did the staff see him talking to non-existent people? Were they told he took an illegally obtained drug earlier that day? Were they told he's an addict? Did they test his blood? So many questions.

Jody Hepler 09-09-2008 02:02 PM

Black outs (not remembering) are a sign of late stage addiction.

I believe in making addicts accept consequences of their actions - like calling 911 and letting them deal with it (I have friends that have called and left the house). Not going to the ER - in my experience, if there is not a family member with them, often they do keep them - or send them to the local county/state A&D unit. Or commit them under a psych diagnosis for 72 hours.

I also have a healthy respect for addicts that are literally out of their mind - terrible things happen, especially with guns and violence. They have no control, any sane thought processes are gone - my 6'3" 200+ pound husband couldn't subdue my 15 year old drugged up son. That convinced me to get out of the way! And he didn't even remember it.

Those type of experiences helped this codie learn detachment.

Love in recovery,
Jody Hepler
:Val004:

imallright 09-09-2008 02:09 PM

Oh, I am so sorry you are going thru this. Get yourself to a meeting or someplace that is safe and ask for all the help you need. How frightening. Talk to your doc...see what can be done and most of all... stay safe. HUGS

NoelleR 09-09-2008 02:58 PM

"...Black outs (not remembering) are a sign of late stage addiction..."

This is a commonly held misconception.....since all previous studies and surveys regarding blackouts were done only using alcoholics it was concluded that if a person has blackouts that person is an alcoholic.....as the below links show, this is like saying, "Dogs have eyes, therefore if you have eyes, you're a dog." .... lol

Although blackouts may be a sign of alcoholism, blackouts are more common in non-alcoholics than was ever thought.....here are a couple of sites to visit/read/learn....:

Alcohol-induced blackouts
Alcohol-induced blackouts
Alcohol-induced blackouts


NoelleR

itisatruth 09-09-2008 06:44 PM

It means so much to come home and read all your replies. Thank you so much.

I'm so glad the day is almost over.

After my post this morning, he got worse. I had to call the police. They came and had to restrain him which ended with a big laceration on his face/chin and possibly missing teeth. I don't know, I haven't seen him since they took him. He is in county mental health hospital under observation. The doctor there thinks he may have been going through withdrawals from the norco which put him in that state. But he's waiting until tomorrow and can find out more; apparently AH is still sleeping.

My mom is here helping me clean up and I need to rest. I left for most of the day-- just couldn't be here. I will spend more time really reading the replies when I am more relaxed.

BayAreaPhoenix 09-09-2008 07:17 PM

Itisatruth - I'm glad he's out of the house. Take your time, be good to yourself!

BBD 09-09-2008 07:42 PM

Itisatruth, I'm so sorry you had to go through all that. It must be terrifying wondering what has happened. Try to relax a bit. It seems he's in the right hands now...Big hugs hon, Bonnie

mooselips 09-09-2008 08:04 PM

(((itisatruth))))
I'm glad you still have YOUR ears.
Now that he is out of the house, and you have time to reflect about the chaos and drama, what's going through your mind right now?




Hugs, and serenity...
and prayers for your AH too....

greeteachday 09-09-2008 08:23 PM

So glad you are okay and that he is in a safe place. Prayers for both of you

Serenidad 09-09-2008 08:26 PM

Hugs and prayers!

MsPINKAcres 09-10-2008 05:16 AM

Big HUGS for you today!!

Rita

ctrom40 09-10-2008 05:23 AM

What a scary thing to happen, almost like you were having a nightmare.


More big hugs and prayers for you this morning.

:ghug3

Jody Hepler 09-10-2008 10:53 AM

Glad he is out of your house - at least for a bit.

Hope you can relax and regroup.

Love in recovery,
Jody Hepler

:Val004:

Abundance 09-10-2008 04:43 PM

(((truth))) ...... just wanted to let you know I was thinking about ya! xoxoxo

itisatruth 09-10-2008 10:10 PM

Thank you
 
With every post I read, just like every hug I get at alanon, I feel better. Your thoughts, hugs, and prayers help so much. Thank you again and again.

I'm still very tired -- must be the stress because I fell asleep early last night - on the recliner. Thank God I had set the alarm. I'd like to reply to all the posts, but I just don't think I can stay up that late. ;)

Jody Helper......I wish I would have thought of your idea. Makes so much sense NOW.

StillLearning -- IMO honesty is a good thing --when given in a caring way which you did. Enabling. Yes. And I thought I was doing so well in my (slow) recovery. Ann posted a JFT about fear. High time I face mine instead of avoid it.


I'm glad you still have YOUR ears.
Now that he is out of the house, and you have time to reflect about the chaos and drama, what's going through your mind right now?
Moose......I'm glad I have them too, and must say, they're pretty nice ears too! So much going through my mind.....

Before I hit "submit" for my original post, I almost didn't. I knew that once I posted that, I would feel that if I didn't immediately pack my bags and get the h*** out of here, you all --- and myself-- would think I'm crazy, sick, or just plain stupid.

Back in August, I told AH I was moving out. I was so mad and upset I thought I could almost walk out and sleep in my car if I had to. Then, I started thinking (watch out), I need a place close to work, I need a bathroom to myself, I can't afford that, etc, etc, etc. I never changed my mind, I just thought I could do it on my time line. Guess we can't always expect things to work out as planned.

I know after this, things cannot stay the same. No way. Action. Focusing on action..............

:ghug

BayAreaPhoenix 09-10-2008 10:18 PM

(((itisatruth)))

It's never an easy answer! Boy do I know that. But, your safety is foremost, above all else. You know what you're dealing with. No minimizing, and no dramatizing, but I guess, if I was honest with my opinion (and that's all this is) I think I would rather you err on the side of caution - for yourself!

Take care of you!

Lots of hugs coming your way!

itisatruth 09-10-2008 10:35 PM

almostexCW ;)

Quite enough drama all on its own -- and I hate drama. I always appreciate your input, opinions or otherwise. On this "journey" for me, I have made many changes, one important one is that I am not afraid to put my needs first now. I will take care of myself, promise.

hopingicanhelp 09-10-2008 10:39 PM

most of the time ppl in hospitals send ppl home b/c in reality they are overtired and overworked, and they would rather not deal w/ the headache of setting up observations, therapy, and fighting the patient to get help in the first place. they take the easy way out and send them home even if they may be dangerous to themselves or others ignoring that there is a problem. sorry u had to go thru that. i'll pray for u.

lisa1235 09-10-2008 11:20 PM

im sorry this nitemare is you're reality right now.he needs help..as a recovering addict i know he's living a nitemare daily in active use.i really hope he gets help.you too need to heal.at least you see first hand where you never want to b.i wish you both peace and joy of a new life .you're n my prayers.."this too shall pass"!:praying

Abundance 09-11-2008 01:54 PM

((((truth)))) ..... I've been thinking about you. Thank you for the update. I'm proud of you.

I'm glad you are taking care of yourself....... xoxoxoxo


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