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pmaslan 08-15-2006 10:00 AM

Hey Minx, back to your original post...thanks for sharing
this wonderful story with us....
it was good enough for me too....

denny57 08-15-2006 10:02 AM

I've learned I can find any journal, scientific study, religious book, secular tenet, etc. to back up any point I want to make. The nice thing about my recovery is I have so very few points I want to make any more. Except the most important one: make the best life for myself because as far as I can prove this is the only one I get.

My education and learning has gotten me to a place where I believe the best I should/can/would/try to do is observe my own life, my own experience living with alcoholism and base my decisions for my life on that.

I loved my AH with all my heart. He is an addict who has not yet chosen sobriety. I made a choice. Everyone has them.

equus 08-15-2006 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by denny57
I've learned I can find any journal, scientific study, religious book, secular tenet, etc. to back up any point I want to make. The nice thing about my recovery is I have so very few points I want to make any more. Except the most important one: make the best life for myself because as far as I can prove this is the only one I get.

My education and learning has gotten me to a place where I believe the best I should/can/would/try to do is observe my own life, my own experience living with alcoholism and base my decisions for my life on that.

I loved my AH with all my heart. He is an addict who has not yet chosen sobriety. I made a choice. Everyone has them.

I've learned through my home, through life, through my own experience the point I was making. However I don't find it so easy to back any point with solid reference, but where's there's one most likely there's two and so on.

This post is about hope - something so important, both to those who's loved ones chose a program and to those of us who's loved ones succeed without. It's a reminder, what's been added is a reminder to us who see it's validity day in and day out.

It's that simple really the reminder is for all. While there's suggestion our story is less real I'll post evidence otherwise - because I remember when I could really have used just that.

It's for all of us..... Whether we stay or leave, whether someone chooses a program or not...

Reminder that sometmes they do get sober :bananadan

DesertEyes 08-15-2006 12:28 PM

Here's what works for me.

"Recovery" means to maintain or return to a life that is happy, joyous and free.

"Program" means the specific actions taken to attain that life that is happy, joyous and free.

In the context of addiction / alcoholism it means that all the people affected by somebody's addiction / alcoholism need to take action in order to "find" that life.

On this forum there are abundant examples of all the many differnt ways people go about reaching that "recovery". Some people stay with their addict, some leave. Some people go to church, some go to shrinks, some go to doctors, some join any one a zillion organizations, etc., etc.

One way or another, there _is_ a way out of the horrors of addiction. The people on this forum show that there are many, many ways out.

The one thing that is common to all the people who find a way out is that they all take _some_ kind of action. Doing _nothing_ results in _nothing_. Which actions are useful to a particular individual is something that each one of us has to figure out on our own.

I know many many addicts and alcoholics who have gotten sober and "recovered". I also know just as many family members who have "recovered" their own lives. There is a way out of the pain. Browse around here on SR and you will find several people who have found a way out that will fit your particular needs. Read their posts, ask them questions and then take the actions that they took.

That's what i have done, and I have had a life that has been wonderful beyond description in spite of all the stuff that the world has thrown at me.

Mike :)

blizzard77 08-15-2006 06:23 PM

Thanks five for the definition of what a dry drunk is. My AH possess or is everything you said. He's been "sober" for 5 1/2 months but not working his program. I still have hope though. He went to two AA meetinings yesterday and seemed more alive than I've seen him in weeks. The last time I saw that was after the last AA meeting he attended. It also helps that I'm learning that I too have character defects that have contributed to "our" disease. I don't mean ours together as one disease but rather two sick people that have a similar disease. I work my program, he works his. I at my pace, him at his pace. I still have hope that we may be able to participate in a healthy relationship with eachother but I don't obsess about it anymore. I don't play God anymore ( or at least not as much...I'm new at this, he is too.) Only our higher power knows but if I keep showing up and doing the work I will continue to get better. There are many RAH out there and many more to follow. I hope and pray for all of them.:c016:

blizzard77 08-15-2006 06:52 PM

I'm not one of those people that believe AA is the only way out or alanon is the only way out. It just seems to be working for me and for AH when he does attend meetings. Infact since AH does not believe in God, he said he found his higher power to be meetings. He explains this as ten people are stronger than one person doing the job alone. At least that's what his view was fresh out of rehab. I partied hard in my twentys up until I was 30 and got a DWI. Being hand cuffed on the side of the road was enough for me to never drink again. I didn't have a problem quitting, I didn't crave a drink after that night. I never went to AA. Does that make me a dry drunk? I don't think so. I believe that I was a problem drinker so the best solution to get rid of the problem was not to drink. My AH brother and uncle still tell me I'm in denial and I can't admit my alcoholism.
I still go out to parties and things where alcohol is readily available and am content with my diet coke. It does get rather aggervating when everyone around you is stumbling drunk, staggering. slurring their words and repeating the same things over and over but I don't judge how others choose to have a good time, it's just not my idea of a good time anymore.

meli2005 08-16-2006 12:25 PM

thanks for sharing a positive story. I think sometimes these people need to lose the one they love in order to see the consequences of their drinking. There are happy stories, good to hear it..

slshuman 08-16-2006 12:53 PM

Yesterday, my AH reached 16 months sober. We separated in October 05 after he had been "dry" for about 6 months. In January 06, he embraced recovery and starting working a program--the changes in him have been incredible.

I have been a grateful member of Al-Anon 16 months as well. However, I didn't really embrace my own recovery until after our separation. The changes in me are no less incredible.

We have recently decided to continue with the separation, but we are now "dating" each other (my term). Yesterday, we met and had something to eat before his meeting and we talked--really talked--for about an hour. 16 months ago, I never thought that would be possible--heck, I didn't think it would be possible 10 months ago.

I keep my side of the street clean (or try to), remind my self that the goal is "Progress Not Perfection" and to "Trust the Process." Today, I have hope--something I lost a long time ago and I am thankful to my HP that I have found it again.

denny57 08-16-2006 02:44 PM

slshuman - I love your share and am thrilled for the both of you. ((()))


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