Facebook is pushing moderation on me Anyone heard of Triggr Health? It's a moderation system that Facebook is advertising on my feed. I guess moderation is the new trendy thing for addiction? I suppose whatever works for harm reduction is a good thing but I just don't buy that it works. Facebook never ceases to creep me out with their knowledge of my issues. Just reading about it "triggered" me in that it made wonder if moderation is achievable. |
When it came to drinking, "moderation" was not part of my vocabulary! :) |
Correction - it isn't exactly a moderation system. They support whatever you want to achieve. They do say they are not "abstinence based" but if you want to be abstinent they will help you get there. |
If it sounds too good to be true it probably is. The title of your thread is a bit concerning as well. Facebook cannot "push" you to do anything you don't want to do. You ultimately make all decisions and choices as to how you want to live your life - not an electronic social media outlet. I personally quit using facebook about 5 years ago and it was one of the best decisions I've made in a long time. There's a lot better ways to spend your time. |
I think it's good to have a healthy cynicism of the tricks of the internet and social media. They "magically" advertise products, pages and even suggest groups and friends in a very big-brother like way. If it disturbs you maybe have a break for a while. Main thing is to be proud and confident of your decision for abstinence! No one will convince me that there's any other way when in comes to addiction. Keep going you're doing great! |
Advertising can push you in a certain direction if you are impressionable. However, I can't blame advertising for influencing me because that's what it's designed to do. Ultimately, I am the decider. I still feel resolved to stay sober, I just find it interesting that this may the new wave in recovery. I guess the medical industry is so desperate to reduce harm, they will try anything. I get that some people don't want to be told what their recovery should look like and this approach might save their lives if they would have been otherwise alienated by an abstinence-only approach. |
Thanks joandmel! I take periodic breaks from Facebook. I spend an average of 10 minutes a day on it so it isn't an issue for me. I just find the targeted advertising fascinating. If Facebook is so smart, why haven't they figured out that I quit drinking and don't wish to moderate? I don't have any doubts that abstinence is right for me. I have tried moderation and failed many times. It's just my AV playing a few tricks on me to make me think I can drink safely. |
Pesky AV grrrrr.......!!!!! |
Originally Posted by leanabeana
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Advertising can push you in a certain direction if you are impressionable. . personally, i am responisble. theres alcohol advertising everywhere. i have a choice to make that advertising make me think i can drink them purdy drinks without consequences or use my past to rimind me that that drink wont stop at 1 or 20. |
A real alcoholic is incapable of moderating. I call myself an alcoholic because when I pick up a drink I have no control over quantity and consequences. I can abstain (with the help of AA) but not on my own. |
Moderation and I could never coexist. I used to get triggered by advertising. Not anymore though. Xxx. |
Facebook can't 'make' anyone do anything. And yes, the targeted ads are creepy. I don't patronize anything having to do with the ads. |
I suggest you use an ad blocker or maybe give FB a rest for a while Leana? D |
I didn't know you could ad block on FB |
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Cool! I'll check it out. Thanks Dee. |
Originally Posted by ScottFromWI
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I personally quit using facebook about 5 years ago and it was one of the best decisions I've made in a long time. There's a lot better ways to spend your time. |
I don't believe in moderation or Facebook. I think it's always best to avoid something that triggers the devil inside of us. I've fell victim to the idea of moderation. It only took me 3-4 years to find out it doesn't work... |
I cannot moderate. I spent years trying! It does not work for me. |
I tried to moderate... it works for a little while and then I end up blacked out and regretting something! If I could moderate I would be a normal drinker and I wouldn't be here in the first place! I think the fact that we consider moderating our drinking shows how much of an issue we really have |
Moderation was when I didn't wake up in the hospital. -allan |
I just tried the FB Purity and put in key words of things I don't want to see including, alcohol-moderation-wine-recovery programs in that section. Interested to see how it changes the stuff I get in everything I chose to hide. Side note back to main question/OP - I took a break from FB and am now on in recovery. I don't have people who aren't generally positive, and people I actually know, and flat out ignore the crap. I manage a recovery group page and post often there and on my page about my recovery because I am now "out" in all circles, so FB is still very relevant for me. |
You can if you see an ad like this, "opt out" and say you would not like to see them anymore. I think the vast majority of folks that are at a point which they feel they need to moderate and not good candidates. Years ago I followed a Moderation forum as an "Abstient" person. For the majority of those that were attempting moderation, it seemed a heck of a lot more trouble, work and effort only to miss their goals repeatedly and suffer concequences. I think for most and know for me abstinece is the "easier softer way. I just chuckle now when I see anything that seems to encourage me to take a drink as it is just ridiculous to consider. |
I just deactivated my Facebook account, probably temporarily, just to be able to work harder on mindfulness and not keep staring at my friends and family drinking sensibly. Something I am unable to even consider! |
Originally Posted by leanabeana
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I don't have any doubts that abstinence is right for me. I have tried moderation and failed many times. It's just my AV playing a few tricks on me to make me think I can drink safely. I don't have any doubts that abstinence is the only choice for me, too. Being able to drink safely isn't a factor in that decision, the AV is like "wwhhhaaaat?!", :) too bad for IT |
I have never had a FB account and I don't really ever visit it as a guest, lurker or whatever. I'm on FB a good bit because my wife likes to post pictures of us. I am rather shocked that your entry or comments on FB would result in your receipt of advertising relating to moderation. It sounds like something which would come from the spirits industry. This forum and a few for other interests of mine (e.g. music blogs) are the closest I come to being on social media. I put no stock in moderation for someone who is a true alcoholic based on what I have witnessed over the years (primarily funerals). |
I seem to alternately get "suggested pages" of rehabs & breweries, which just goes to show how smart their algorithms are. |
I can see where FB could become another addiction. I limit myself to about 15 minutes per day. Works for me. As for their marketing...every time you do a search on your computer, somebody, somewhere is keep track. Just the way it is today. |
Moderation is not an option for alcoholics. It works for heavy drinkers. Most of us quit drinking for good only after realizing we cannot moderate. |
Moderation would work for anyone, if they did it. It works best for people who don't 'do it' on purpose, those for whom intoxication isn't the goal. It does not work for quitters, not because a strict limit isn't physically possible to achieve but because it isn't quitting. Quitting works, guaranteed. Moderation is an AV term for more booze. |
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