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once the recovering drunk finally realizes what they have truly been saved from possible death, loss of loved ones, friends, personal property etc. it seems that for many they will not have a clue or a desire to be and stay sober when I sobered up this last time around I was in a deep fog for months until my thinking cleared up it would have been easy to try what I call some controlled drinking even though it had never worked for me in the past yes - the drunks mind and thoughts can be very deceiving no one in my life has deceived me more than myself I think that what has been of great help for me in my recovery is working and sharing in AA, with my sponsor and on sites such as this seeing the ones who struggle for so long trying to get and stay sober a gift that many never seem to attain as many here know I had a friend in recovery here where I live die just a while back with a bottle in his hand he was the latest of many who I have seen die to the bottle once the recovering drunk realizes what they have truly been saved from a terrible life married to booze and the effects of at times they seem not to have a clue and many will return to their vomit (Proverbs 26:11 ESV) Like a dog that returns to his vomit is a fool who repeats his folly. it's what makes one grateful knowing that by the grace of God there go I many here on site have complained when I center my threads or posts if this is your only complaint of the day you have had a good day Mountainmanbob |
Looks like we are both having a good day!!! Thanks for the post |
That's a great post and rings true. Many of us propably have had loved ones die due to using alcohol or other drugs. My best friend committed suicide. And he was drunk at the time. It is most evident to me that alcohol can make anyone confused, depressed and in a dark/strange place that appears to be reality but is nothing of a kind. This friend of mine was not a suicidal person. Never really complained about anything. And just about all this. I can too see what went wrong with the past. It was the alcohol and I can clearly see that without it, things would've inevitably worked out. Then I have friends whose close friends have died of OD'ing and drinking too much. Alcohol is destructive. It is poison. |
This is really really awesome, Mountainmanbob, especially the part about the dog that returns to his vomit...Yes, but for the grace of God... I love your writing and the centering of the posts myself. :) Keep it coming, Mmb! June |
Originally Posted by Junegirl
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This is really really awesome, Mountainmanbob, especially the part about the dog that returns to his vomit...Yes, but for the grace of God... I love your writing and the centering of the posts myself. :) Keep it coming, Mmb! June Like the dog that returns to his vomit is a fool who repeats his folly. concordance Prov. 26:11 It is folly to turn back from following Christ (2 Pet. 2:22). 2 Peter 2:22 What the true proverb says has happened to them: “The dog returns to its own vomit, and the sow, after washing herself, returns to wallow in the mire.” concordance 2 Pet. 2:20–22 It would have been better for these false teachers never to have escaped the world in the first place, than to follow in the path of the knowledge of … Christ only to abandon that path and return to a life of sin and darkness. One reason it is better not to have known about the holy commandment is that those who turn away after falsely confessing the Christian faith will not be inclined to consider Christ again. Another reason is that their knowledge and experience of the Christian life makes them more accountable before God (cf. Luke 12:47–48). Some understand these verses to teach that true believers can lose their salvation. It is more likely that Peter refers to those who appeared to be Christians but then showed by their apostasy and their behavior that they never truly belonged to Christ (see notes on John 6:66; 15:2; Gal. 2:3–4; 1 John 2:19). God promises that those who truly know him will never fall away because he will keep them by his grace (cf. John 10:27–29; Rom. 8:28–39; Phil. 1:6). Those who do turn back show that their true character is like that of a dog (cf. Prov. 26:11) or a sow. They appeared to have been saved, but by returning to the vomit and mire of the world, they demonstrated that they were never truly regenerated. |
The most successful man I ever knew died of liver failure Alcohol caused it . He owned 10-15,000 acres and had millions of $ It got him , no exemptions granted . |
He, he Bob. Center away fellow!!! Compared to the problems my drinking caused me that is truly a minor one...... And well said. Some of us pursue our 'right to drink' to the gates of insanity or death. Sober we can at least be available with our experience and hope if someone truly wishes to avoid that prospect. Just for today. G |
Amen Mountainmanbob |
Amen brother! Awesome post |
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The most successful man I ever knew died of liver failure Alcohol caused it success is not appreciated by the drunk ones they die just as easily to the drink as the ones who had next to nothing Mountainman |
Love this: once the recovering drunk realizes what they have truly been saved from a terrible life married to booze and the effects of at times they seem not to have a clue and many will return to their vomit Thanks for the post! |
Originally Posted by LadyBlue0527
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I'm amazed at how much of my life I spent fighting so hard to keep doing something that was entirely worthless that sucked the very life out of me that I thought it gave me. after some good sobriety time as I look back today on my drinking years it seems as though I was in a daily battle back then didn't even realize it at the time I had gotten used to the pain and sorrow that came with the drink I feel today like one returning from fighting in the Middle East for me -- the war is over Mountainman |
Amen. |
Love your Avatar MountainmanBob! :) |
Originally Posted by MamaGoat
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Love your Avatar MountainmanBob! :) |
Originally Posted by Mountainmanbob
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once the recovering drunk realizes what they have truly been saved from a terrible life married to booze and the effects of at times they seem not to have a clue and many will return to their vomit it's what makes one grateful knowing that by the grace of God there go I I was very much upset because some of us on here are posting about their abusive relationships. For some reason your phrase "married to the booze" keeps reminding me of these posts. on a lighter note - if I could have one of those little pygmy goats, I would. I could listen to them make their little "maaaaas" all day, all night. LOVE them. |
saved from the grip of the liquid devil MM |
once the recovering drunk finally realizes that they need not suffer anymore with the drink and that the war is over peace and serenity come upon them as with a rising morning sunrise MM |
Amen. |
today I realize what a war zone (battle of mind and soul) that I was in while drinking and drugging deceived myself back then into thinking it was normal to break hearts, go to jail, get stiches, called on the carpet at work, crash cars and motor homes, cuss people out, get into fights -- the list goes on and on today serenity has been found -- the war has been over for some time now so very grateful M-Bob |
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