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jacrazz 04-28-2014 04:28 PM

It's time.....
 
Stop Blaming Your Parents. Give It Up. Stop. Let It Go!

Harsh? Or do we need to let go? I have grieved and moved forward but I see many have not.

jacrazz 04-28-2014 05:50 PM

I found this movie
 
It touched me.....


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DesertEyes 04-28-2014 07:02 PM

What helped me the most was people who showed me how _they_ did it.

Being told what I should do was a of no use to me. I already knew that, I just did not know _how_.

What specific actions did you follow, jacrazz, that took you to a place where you can say you have "moved forward"? How, exactly, do you define "move forward"? What activities did you engage in that enabled you to grieve?

Mike :)

jaynie04 04-28-2014 07:14 PM

I have been beating myself up lately, old stuff I thought I had sorted out came back to bite me in the butt. My mother is an alcoholic who has been sober for 35 years, I have a feeling my own sobriety is causing me to be frightened I am anything like her.

It is not as simple as letting go. The way we attach to our parents literally hard wires us…without a lot of work those of us who had rotten childhoods are likely to suffer or even more frightening, repeat history. And for those of us who were traumatized it will likely come up all our lives.

It isn't about holding a grudge, it is about trying to understand how the pieces of the puzzle were put together in the first place. I had a wonderful therapist who I worked with for a long time. It took a long time for me to acknowledge I was abused, I would talk in a whisper even though my parents lived states away.

There is a statement in the piece shown in the OP, "I did the best I could". It took me years to understand that that statement seems to put the blame on the victim, as if we are expecting too much. I believe most of us who had terrible parents will always struggle with believing we deserve anything at all.

Kialua 04-29-2014 08:48 AM

Interesting article. A lot has been written about how to get on with your life after a trauma. Everyone is different. Some need more intense therapy and counseling than others, because everyone's situation is different.

I was raised in an alcoholic physically abusive home. Three things that helped me personally and uniquely were:

Emotional disconnect: I don't know if everyone can do this, or if it is the best. But at the young age of 3 or 4 hiding in my bedroom listening to the chaos I told myself, "These people are nuts, I will never be like them, and I will never be mean to kids when I grow up". And I lived with that mantra

Stopped drinking: As it happens with many of us, I drank actually from dawn to sleep as a teen and finally got so over my head I had to quit by 12 th grade.

Forgiveness: When I was about 20 or 21, married and in art school, I had a deep faith awakening. One day as I was reaching for the fridge door, I realized that I had to forgive my parents whether they deserved it or not as it was a basic tenant of my Christian faith. Opposed and defiant, they didn't deserve my forgiveness, I collapsed to the floor praying that I just couldn't. But I did. And it changed how I dealt with my parents from that day on. I didn't treat them as they had done nothing wrong but the anger and bitterness was gone. Forgiving IS really for YOU, not the offender.

EveningRose 04-29-2014 09:10 AM

I have some mixed feelings about the article. Most of it is true, but some of it is also exactly what some people say in excusing their own bad behavior. Parents are accountable for their behavior.

At the same time, I agree that we need to accept them for who they are and move ahead with their own lives. I do appreciate that the article acknowledged there is no requirement to have a relationship with them.

As to the HOW I moved ahead with my own life: by focusing on myself, not in a selfish way hopefully, but in raising my children, doing things I love, putting something positive into the world, being the best mother and employee and person I can be.

For me, part of the HOW is in walking away from their constant negativity and criticism, SO THAT I can do better raising my children.

DoubleDragons 04-29-2014 09:20 AM

I think the most beautiful thing that comes out of those of us who had difficult childhoods and from those of us who acknowledge that fact and work on change, is getting a family of our own that can be so entirely different than what we experienced. My husband and I are not perfect partners nor parents, but we are a hell of a lot better than what we experienced, and I couldn't be prouder of that fact. I think my children have blossomed from my husband's and my deep commitment to be that change in our families' legacies. I recommend the simple but beautiful book: The Parent's Tao Te Ching by William Martin. It's theme is really how I hoped to raise my kids and I also use it to help "reparent" myself.

jacrazz 04-29-2014 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by DesertEyes (Post 4620094)
What helped me the most was people who showed me how _they_ did it.

Being told what I should do was a of no use to me. I already knew that, I just did not know _how_.

What specific actions did you follow, jacrazz, that took you to a place where you can say you have "moved forward"? How, exactly, do you define "move forward"? What activities did you engage in that enabled you to grieve?

Mike :)

Well Mike, for one I come to SR and also see how some have healed and have forgiven and how some are still tragically still suffering. What I chose to do was cry, rage, scream...and then forgive. My dad is now 77 and a stubborned old goat. I know that going to him with this will not be affective. He will probably look at me like im crazy. But as I type I see that am doing what I shouldnt be doing....im assuming he will not be receptive. Im just going on past emotions...... SIGH!!! I hugged and kissed little me and told her that I love her and we will be alright.


Originally Posted by EveningRose (Post 4621038)
I have some mixed feelings about the article. Most of it is true, but some of it is also exactly what some people say in excusing their own bad behavior. Parents are accountable for their behavior.

Yes...my son's father, who is in active addiction was told by his parents "You made your bed, now lay in it" I told him it was more like "your parents made your bed and now you have to lay in it"



Originally Posted by jaynie04 (Post 4620112)
It is not as simple as letting go. The way we attach to our parents literally hard wires us…without a lot of work those of us who had rotten childhoods are likely to suffer or even more frightening, repeat history. And for those of us who were traumatized it will likely come up all our lives.

It isn't about holding a grudge, it is about trying to understand how the pieces of the puzzle were put together in the first place. I had a wonderful therapist who I worked with for a long time. It took a long time for me to acknowledge I was abused, I would talk in a whisper even though my parents lived states away.

There is a statement in the piece shown in the OP, "I did the best I could". It took me years to understand that that statement seems to put the blame on the victim, as if we are expecting too much. I believe most of us who had terrible parents will always struggle with believing we deserve anything at all.

I just found out like literally, last month!! I am 45 years old and have had nothing but terrible romantic relationships and a son who struggles with addiction. So sadly, history did repeat itself. Ive educated myself and Im still trying to digest it all. I'm doing ok but its baby steps. Im glad I have you guys to help me along the way

:ring

tromboneliness 05-01-2014 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by jacrazz (Post 4619802)
Stop Blaming Your Parents. Give It Up. Stop. Let It Go!

Harsh? Or do we need to let go? I have grieved and moved forward but I see many have not.

This guy has no clue. He has obviously not been there. (The guy who wrote the article, I mean.)

T

happybeingme 05-02-2014 04:22 PM

While much of what is written is true to me it is too blaise' in its approach. I do not believe all parents did the best they could with the tools they had. My mother is a narcissist. My sisters and I were nothing more than caregivers for my mother our whole lives. She was a helpless victim of life and we mattered not at all.

I also suspect there are some who may feel being given life was not the best gift their parents could have given them.

I am sorry but I these artciles tick me off

tromboneliness 05-03-2014 01:54 AM


Originally Posted by happybeingme (Post 4628008)
While much of what is written is true to me it is too blaise' in its approach. I do not believe all parents did the best they could with the tools they had. My mother is a narcissist. My sisters and I were nothing more than caregivers for my mother our whole lives. She was a helpless victim of life and we mattered not at all.

I also suspect there are some who may feel being given life was not the best gift their parents could have given them.

I am sorry but I these artciles tick me off

Heh... Wow, I just read the comments (which I hadn't read the other day, because Ghostery blocked them, the way it usually does with comments). Man, did those people let him have it!

:a043:

I feel better now! :scoregood

T

happybeingme 05-03-2014 02:25 AM

Good. I cannot stand when people write about a subject they know nothing about.

MikeH 05-04-2014 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by happybeingme (Post 4628008)
I also suspect there are some who may feel being given life was not the best gift their parents could have given them.

There were times in my life when I wish I had never existed. I've come a long way since then with the help of my psychologist and some friends.

I agree with what HappyBeingMe says. I had only been seeing a psychologist for about 2 months, once a week, when he blurted out: "Your mother is a narcissist." But there were times when she clearly knew that what she was doing to me was wrong.

There is some truth to the article, but the "theme" is way off base to me. When people talk about "foregiveness," I come back to Mike's post from 7 years ago...

http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...y-parents.html

happybeingme 05-07-2014 01:30 PM

Mike thank you for the link. It is another great post of desert eyes. He has what I want

chicory 05-07-2014 01:45 PM

I found the article a bit simplistic. I think anyone of us could have written it. He has to do something for his paycheck.

waste of time, unless it is all new to you, and you are a sheep and follow his directions. It just isn't that easy to soothe a hurting heart and move on to acceptance. The stages of grief take time. some take more than others.

I dont like anyone to tell me how to do something. I have a brain too, and can decide how I need to process things.

Heaven knows, a child who was told to 'shut up' always, isn't going to like an article like this which basically says, to me, 'shut up and suck it up and move on.

sorry, but for me, that would not have worked. time helped me to forgive. Time and a lot of thinking about things. And finding my own happiness.


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