That's a good point Blake. And I'm not saying they are Christian groups, but the influence is unmistakable in my eyes. I have noticed that NA, atleast in my area, is a bit less so.
I scored a 28 on a scale from 25 to 100 on the spiritual type test upstairs. I guess that's why I need something that can't be interpreted any way other but secular. LOL. Thanks folks, I've really enjoyed this thread!