Originally Posted by
MrPL 
I agree with both of you. The interesting thing is that relapses are often based on two mistakes to do
with exactly this:
1) we think that it s possible to experience drinking fun again (might be true for a short period)
I never tried drinking again because I never wanted to experience what my last days of drinking again, even if it didn't happen after that first experimental drink. The risk was too great.
Originally Posted by
MrPL 2) we think there s no fun without drinking in certain situations (absolute lie)
If this is true, a person really needs a better taste of reality, because no fun without drinking is ignorant. Take "ignorant" as the actual definition of the term, which means simply "not knowing something," or take it in the negative way as in "just plain stupid." The fact is "not any fun with alcohol" is unequivocally wrong.