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Old 12-28-2005, 10:57 PM
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Don S
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: Northern CA
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Nice of you to reveal yourself here, K. For the rest of you, Kip has apparently been a regular visitor at SMART Recovery online (under another name) for several months, making a barrage of suggestions about how to run the site and meetings and getting very frustrated when the volunteers haven't leapt to embrace each suggestion. The effect of his/her attitude and approach has been damaging to the morale of volunteers and harmful to members.

Unfortunately, much of what you've said here about SOL is incorrect. SMART is not affiliated with Trimpey's program, as he would be quick to tell you. And while both are behavioral approaches, they diverged a long time ago. Your statements here about the SOL volunteers simply repeat the offensive and incorrect statements you've made on the SMART site and in the chat rooms under another name.

"...it also accomodates all usage goals and models." Nonsense. SMART Recovery is an abstinence-based program. For those seeking abstinence, SMART is not only appropriate but specifically intended. Our refusal to accept your repeated efforts there to have us exclude active users from the meetings appears to have frustrated you. Members there are free to discuss harm reduction and moderation in the context of the goal of abstinence. Neither, however, are promoted by SMART Recovery, on the website or in the meetings. Finally, SMART Recovery online is growing rapidly.

Perhaps this means you're going to take your disruptive behavior elsewhere now. Not here, I hope.
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