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Old 01-29-2020, 05:12 AM
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Zebra1275
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My plan is always I can do this myself as I hate asking for help.

In my experience, this will not work. I tried this method for over 20 years.

What I finally realized is that I was getting guidance on how to get and stay sober, from a drunk.

That drunk was me.
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