I think I need to put this thread in a different cloak as it isn't really about graditude. I just needed to be wrapped in something. Any way to redirect? Thanks for the reply best, as I've always said by the time we get here we are so spiritually deprived that we are all seeking a "power greater than ourselves". What we find is a group of people, like ourselves, entrusted with the power of recovery representing HP. Aloha.