i have just spent a large but incredibly constructive amount of time reading the thread dating back to 2011 and would like to thank each and every person that contributed.
I am totally sold and this is the approach that I was hoping to find when I joined the forum.
Countles failed attempts had me almost convinced that this was an unbreakable chain and I was destined to put up with it forever....
I'm only a couple of months in this time but I am done...for good.
I will not drink again and there is absolutely no chance at all that I will change my mind.