Originally Posted by
DontRemember 
I agree that marriage counselling with a drunk that hasn't owned up and sought help,on their own, is pointless. I would have just lied and tried to manipulate everyone in the room. I was good at manipulation and I'm not proud of that.
He has owned up and I have him making the calls and paperwork for marriage counselor. I don’t think he will manipulate bc he feels bad. But whether he’s done drinking is a different story,