Originally Posted by
Greenwood618 
While I cannot speak with precision for anyone but me, I think the concern, rather, is that it is hereby verboten to compare AVRT with other recovery methods, thereby rendering it difficult if not impossible to place it in the context of self help and planned and permanent abstinence as opposed to the other stuff that we aren't allowed to discuss.
Yes Greenwood, you spoke with precision for me.
In order for AVRT, or SMART or LifeRing (et all here in Secular) to be learnt and successfully applied to conquer addiction.....if someone has previously been exposed to the 'life-long recovery group movement' (meetings forever and 'passing it on to keep it' belief) then first and foremost, those old indoctrinated beliefs need to be exposed, re-evaluated. Only then can the process of ending addiction the AVRT, SMART and LifeRing way (et all) begin.