Thanks all. I've been going to a combination of AA, LifeRing and Refuge Recovery. I like them all in different ways, but I do still have issues with the 12 steps. Mainly the defects of character and powerlessness stuff. Like I mentioned in another thread, I don't like being told I'm defective and my emotions or thoughts are wrong. I'll keep going and try to be open minded, but I have some fundamental differences with the philosophy.