Hi, Carlingford, just want to say you're sounding great. I'm sorry if I caused your thread to be hijacked! PAWS symptoms are real, for sure - but if you change your mindset as I did and say 'there goes the PAWS, but thankfully I've got PAWS because I stopped drinking (yay!). together with supplements and an exercise regime, then, somehow, for me, the PAWS symptoms, dissipate.